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I said in an earlier post that I thought the Iraq war was so
costly that it outweighed any benefit from grabbing Iraq's
oil:
www.panix.com
[http://www.panix.com/~dannyw/weblog/Opinions/Politics/Iraq/bush01.html]
I felt confirmed in that belief when no effort was made to get
Iraq's oilfields back on line – production is still much lower
than before the war.
This link certainly confirms my idea that the war is stupendously
expensive – it estimates over *two trillion USD*:
www.informationclearinghouse.info
[http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15499.htm]
But one of the costs mentioned in that page is actually profit
for someone – clear profit at zero risk (unlike say the
role of Halliburton). That profit is the *increased price of
oil* due to tension in the Middle East as well as diminished
flow from Iraq. If the Iraq war had not happened, the big oil
companies, and the islamic dictatorships in the Middle East,
would still have sold the same oil but made much lower
profits.
The story in the link eastimates that the US *alone* will pay
300 billion USD extra, assuming that the Iraq war caused just
a 10 USD/barrel price rise – although the price of oil has
risen since the Iraq war by around 40 USD per barrel. So the
oil companies and the oil sheiks might be congratulating
themselves on a 1,200 billion USD profit on US sales alone.
Now we're talking the kind of money where people might reasonably
decide that the utter destruction of the USA is worth the
trouble. Hmmm.
Who knows if Bush's buddies really control the oil sheiks? Or
is it the other way round? Suppose the oil sheiks were going
to change to dealing in euros because the USD is collapsing,
but Bush bought them off with a price rise? Less hysterical
version of oil/euro theory here:
www.feasta.org
[http://www.feasta.org/documents/papers/oil1.htm]
Anothe pet conspiray theory of mine finds some justification
here:
www.newstatesman.com
[http://www.newstatesman.com/200703120024]
I've often wondered whether the US dead figures in Iraq were
really true – after all, Bush lied about everything else. The
above link mentions, without connecting the dots, that the
US Govt's official figures show that the ratio between
wounded and dead is an astounding 16:1; in the first Gulf war
it was 1.2:1. Hmmmm!
"Why We Fight" is the title of a recent documentary about the USA's
continuing need to maintain a state of war.
At around 1 hr 33 mins 43 secs on my copy, an Iraqi is shown
complaining about the USA, speaking Arabic. I copied down the
subtitles because I find them powerful. Here they are:
Due to their behavior the Americans will fail.
They will fail completely among the countries.
And another country will rise and take the Americans' place.
I am not a political man, but that is my analysis as an ordinary person.
America will lose because her behavior is not the behavior of a great
nation.
I am particularly interested because I have come to believe that
it was the intention of the Bush administration to destroy the
USA all along, although "Why We Fight" pushes the argument that
the military-industrial complex just wanted the administration to
create another enemy now that the USSR has fallen. I think the
military-industrial complex probably still believes that the
US administration is working for them, although they have got to
be starting to wonder.
Do you remember that there was a big fuss about some photographer who
published pictures of the coffins of US servicemen being returned to
the US? The Feds huffed and puffed about publishing such pictures
being disrespectful to the families, and I didn't see any old-media
columnist saying "waitaminute, that's a bunch of malarkey".
Since when is it disrespectful?
I couldn't figure out what was really going on, though. The only
obvious reason the government would have for discouraging an
objective record of incoming casualties would be if they were
attempting to fake the casualty count. I thought that would be
too difficult: they would be bound to be caught out.
Here's a link which discusses various reports that the Feds have been
doing *exactly* that in many ways: eg by using many non-US
citizens in the US Army, who enlisted to get a green card (this
has been an option for a long time):
www.rense.com
[http://www.rense.com/general63/peen.htm]
On the other hand, I *still* don't think that's the real truth. I don't
think the Feds really want to win the war in Iraq. What they want to
do is destroy the US, so they are systematically destroying the integrity
of every institution in it, such as the US Army: now it tortures
captives and lies about its casualties.
It used to be that an institution would survive a scandal among its
top people, because there was a reservoir of integrity among its
workers. In today's culture of fear and isolation in one's job in
America, the worker feels no loyalty to his employer because none
is shown to him. Of course, he knows that if he tries to resist
an improper or illegal order he will find no support from his
coworkers or the media. So now the Feds have only to issue a
single legal opinion, and the US Army obediently tortures thousands
of captives looking for WMDs which the Feds knew would never
be found. When the US Army no longer deserves respect, the
individual soldiers will no longer care.
When I feel angry about what the US is doing, I try to remind myself
that this is what the Feds *want* me to feel: for some reason, they
want to pit the US against the rest of the world, so that the US can
lose.
I just don't know *why*.
The following link is to an article which to me is unwarrantedly
optimistic: it assumes that George Bush thought the war would benefit
big business in Iraq:
www.harpers.org
[http://www.harpers.org/BaghdadYearZero.html]
I quote:
Jay Hallen, a twenty-four-year-old who had applied for a job at the White House, was put in charge of launching Baghdad's new stock exchange.
This reminds me of a movie that has been running on cable recently,
about a team of Allied spies who are required to dress up as women
in order to inflitrate a Nazi center and grab an Enigma cipher machine.
At the end of the movie it turns out the entire team had been selected in
order to fail: the Brits had *already* broken Enigma and just wanted to
encourage the Nazis to keep using it.
Not that I think Hallen is *necessarily* a complete idiot. I also have
no evidence that he's a cross-dresser.
When the "sovereignty" handover took place several days early, I thought
"ok, that's kind of neat, it sorta makes sense that they would try
to forestall demonstrations timed for the official date".
Then Saddam is suddenly put on trial. I thought "hmmm. the handover
happens early and the only thing that happens is the Saddam trial..."
Then I remembered another story that I'd seen on propagandamatrix.com:
Saddam's wife claims the prisoner is not Saddam:
American officials rushed forward to shield Mrs Saddam from perplexed Russian observers, trying to insist that Saddam had changed a lot while in custody and she probably didn't recognise him. This was certainly not the best way to handle the Iraqi President's wife. "You think I do not know my husband?" Sajida shouted furiously, "I was married to the man for more than twenty-five years!" Then she stormed off, never to return
www.prisonplanet.tv
[http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/june2004/061804saddamnotsaddam.htm]
This may have something to do with another strange little story:
A team of US military officers acted as censors over all coverage of the hearings of Saddam Hussein and his henchmen on Thursday, destroying videotape of Saddam in chains and deleting the entire recorded legal submissions of 11 senior members of his former regime.
www.counterpunch.org
[http://www.counterpunch.org/fisk07032004.html]
Now, if I was a paranoid type, I would link these things together. My feeling
is that once the story about Mrs Hussein gets out, the spit hits the fan.
So Bush/Cheney figure out that if Saddam is in *someone elses's custody*
they can't get blamed. So they hurriedly create their Quisling government
in Iraq and hand Saddam over to it (on paper). Now Bush/Cheney can claim
that Saddam had been held safely in *US* custody and it was only those
nitwit Iraqis who screwed things up.
Incidentally I think the real Saddam has been sitting on a couch in
Virginia drinking beer, playing with his new Tivo and swapping jokes
with his old buddies in Halliburton since the "invasion". After all,
whose interests did he serve every day while he was president of Iraq?
Despite this, I find the following line funny and would like to wear
a T-shirt with it:
Les Francais sont des singes de capitulation qui mangent du fromage
This was someone's tagline on Slashdot. A couple more I noticed
recently with some relevance to Iraq are:
"I'm not stupid, I'm not expendable, and I'm not going."
- Avon, Blake's Seven
Yoda of Borg am I! Assimilated shall you be! Futile resistance is, hmm?
Dateline: Smallville, USA
Several years ago, on a date which the Department of Homeland Security does
not wish us to reveal, the residents of Smallville, USA woke up to find
that one of the small farms that make up the charming heart of this sleepy
rural community had become a military base. Razor wire had been hastily put
up overnight; over the next few weeks it was converted to an impenetrable
barrier of concrete forms, watchtowers and, according to one rumor,
leaping mines.
Thanks to a Freedom of Information Act application by the New York Times,
the government has now released redacted official documents which detail
a series of frantic efforts by the underfunded, overworked patriots in
the Department of Homeland Security to defend the country from a missile
launched by Saddam Hussein.
The missile landed without incident, apparently so that its cargo could
be distributed to major cities such as New York, NY and Washington, D. C.
Local collaborators, named in documents as Ma and Pa Kent, apparently
hid the contents of the rocket on their isolated farm. They had gone
to great lengths to hide their Islamic sympathies from their neighbors,
"which just proves their guilt", said an anonymous spokesman.
Few local residents wished to offer any support for Ma and Pa Kent.
"No! No! Please – don't hit me again!" said one resident as he fled from
the scene with a hood over his head, in the back of a Department of
Homeland Security truck.
However the New York Times has now uncovered suggestions that Saddam's
secret weapons program had somehow created a "Superjihadist", who
had been miniaturized to fit in the rocket and to appear similar to
a normal human being, but by the use of advanced North Korean genetics
techniques was capable of leaping tall buildings at a single bound.
(The New York Times was informed of the situation eighteen months
ago but were informed that it was a matter of vital national
security.)
Fortunately after interrogation Ma and Pa Kent revealed that the
Superjihadist was vulnerable to some green glowing rocks which were
available on their farm, so the Superjihadist has been kept safely
confined at the Kent compound, strapped to a bedframe made from
the green glowing material. According to a judgement by the President's
legal team, this does not constitute torture, and anyone who says
that it does can be secretly arrested.
Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, at a recent news conference at
an undisclosed underground location, said "Although of course I have
had no responsibility for the day-to-day running of the so-called
"Kent Compound", let me say that our brave fighting men have created
a triumph of democracy and freedom, and the Superjihadist has
already given us many useful leads on the whereabouts of Saddam
Hussein..." [redacted] "...Al Qaeda operatives."
"Furthermore", Mr. Rumsfeld continued, "the experience of our
democracy and freedom will, we hope, allow the Superjihadist some
day to play a role in Iraq's new free and democratic democracy."
As he spoke, a strange sound, like that of a child wailing in terrible
pain, but astonishingly loud through the heavy concrete walls of the
shelter, could be heard. Audio recordings were confiscatedˆHˆH NOT
CON FICSATED.
Attempts by the United Nations to interview either "Ma" or "Pa"
Kent have been rebuffed. According to a statement by the Department
of Homeland Security, they are among "a group of detainees who
continue to offer information useful to the security of the United
States."
Some of my attentive readers (are there any?) may have wondered if I
was talking through my hat when I pointed out that the US prison system
has recorded abuses as bad as anything we have heard about Abu Ghraib:
www.panix.com
[http://www.panix.com/~dannyw/weblog/Opinions/Politics/Iraq/abughraib01.html]
www.panix.com
[http://www.panix.com/~dannyw/weblog/Opinions/Politics/Iraq/abughraib02.html]
Here's a US site describing a report from "Jamie Fellner, director of the Human Rights Watch U. S. Program" (never heard of them but so what):
wilmingtonjournal.blackpressusa.com
[http://wilmingtonjournal.blackpressusa.com/News/Article/Article.asp?NewsID=3340&sID=3]
A culture of brutality has developed in which correctional officers
know they can get away with excessive, unnecessary, or even purely
malicious violence. Perhaps if photos or videotapes of abuse in U. S.
prisons were to circulate publicly, Americans would be galvanized to
protest such treatment as they have the treatment of Iraqi prisoners.
Absent such graphic and unavoidable evidence, it is all too likely
that abuse will continue to be a part of many prison sentences..
...
In his minority opinion, [Justice Clarence] Thomas argued that the
beating by three prison guards was not cruel and unusual punishment
although the beating left Hudson with loosened teeth, facial bruises,
and a cracked dental plate. ''A use of force that causes only
insignificant harm to a prisoner may be immoral, it may be torturous,
it may be criminal ... but it is not 'cruel and unusual punishment,'''
Thomas wrote.
Actually I kinda agree with Thomas on that one. He's a Strict
Constructionist and thinks you shouldn't take off and apply
Constitutional arguments to plain beatings. He would restrict
"cruel" to "having attack dogs bite you to death" and "unusual" to
"putting starch in your underwear".
(Regrettably, the writer of the above article thinks you hogtie
someone "to" the floor. You hogtie someone's wrists to his ankles.
Having done that, I suppose you could also tie him to the floor
but it seems superfluous. ...I just saw the dangling participle;
oh well.)
I found the link to the above page here:
www.propagandamatrix.com
[http://www.propagandamatrix.com/]
There are a lot of other good articles there, like the one on the ghastly
G8 conference and the 2000 body bags they ordered, but they're too
depressing to list.
I was watching some US spokesman sweating under the camera lights as he
tried to convince the pressmen that the US Army had found evidence that the
wedding ceremony that they bombed was a terrorist center. Earnestly, he
underlined that the building where the wedding guests had died had been set
up as a "dormitory", as if that were a military-sounding word that supported
his argument.
Bush, and his administration, lied repeatedly about whether they had hard
evidence of WMDs in Iraq. That's something that they *knew* would be
proven false. (They probably intended to discover some fake WMDs – like
the "germ weapons manufacturing trailers" which were being manufactured "to
to train Special Operations units" by the guy that they later
blamed for having stolen the anthrax powder – but that's another issue.)
And *as far as we know* they had no reason to lie about it at that time.
"Iraqi Mobile Biological Warfare Agent Production Plants
28 May 2003" www.cia.gov
[http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraqi_mobile_plants/]
Dr Steven J. Hatfill a "person of interest" in the anthrax enquiry:
www.ph.ucla.edu
[http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/bioter/antigermtraining.html]
So now we're supposed to believe them on something where they have every
reason to lie and every opportunity to conceal and manufacture evidence?
In the famous Profumo case in England in the sixties, a callgirl called
Mandy Rice-Davies took the stand, and when the counsel for the defense
pointed out that Viscount Astor's testimony contradicted hers and asked
her if she could expect the court to believe that he had lied, she answered
"Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Powerful people lie whenever they think they
can get away with it. Bush would, wouldn't he? The US Army would, wouldn't
they? There was a time when I trusted the official spokesman of the US Army,
but I was a sap then, wasn't I?
Profumo affair:
www.nostalgiacentral.com
[http://www.nostalgiacentral.com/pop/profumoaffair.htm]
Surprisingly rational-sounding postings about the recent discovery of
traces of Sarin in an artillery round in Iraq:
www.command-post.org
[http://www.command-post.org/2_archives/012332.html]
Many interesting issues are raised. For instance, the clock on one camera
is 11 hours ahead of the clock on the other camera. That's the timezone
difference between Iraq and California. (Actually, I'm not sure that's
correct, when California is on summer time. Maybe Iraq is too.)
www.libertyforum.org
[http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_international&Number=1471708&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=21&part=1]
1. Some of the links I've followed about Berg have remarked on a "halo"
around his head that they thought suggested that digital editing had been
used to place his head in the scene. It occurs to me however that this sort
of artefact is common in image compression such as the MPEG used for
digital video.
2. I think it's very telling that some representatives of the US armed
forces are telling us that as a result of the inquiries into prisoner abuse
sleep deprivation in excess of 72 hours will not be used.
Have you ever stayed up 12 hours past your bedtime? Imagine doing it
kneeling naked, handcuffed against the bars of your cell, wrists to
ankles. Now imagine doing that for another 60 hours, never knowing
when you would be unbound.
And that's what they're saying they can *still* do to Iraqi prisoners –
or anyone else they deem necessary in the War on Terrorism. And telling
anyone about it would be illegal... etc...
The IHT today had an article by Ted Conover "In prison, guards watch the boss"
which made points rather similar to my own in my previous posting – although,
perhaps because he *worked* as a prison guard, he is less eager to talk about
the spectacular cases of mistreatment which occur routinely in the US.
www.iht.com
[http://www.iht.com/articles/518898.html]
My own impression is that the whole prison rape thing in the US is a result
of the collision between Hispanic and Anglo cultures. In the Hispanic
culture, it is routine for otherwise heterosexual men to make use of
effeminate males, and of course the circumstances of being in a men-only
prison will accentuate this. So – especially because Hispanics are jailed
way out of proportion to their numbers (maybe the chance of winding up in
jail is a turn-on) – this establishes rape as a part of jail culture.
Additionally, Anglo men are especially afraid of being raped, and even of
involvement in any form of non-hetero society. This makes the threat of
non-violent coercion, such as being placed in a queer block, effective
by itself, and useful to guards who perhaps would eschew actual violence.
So this form of control has become part of prison guards' bag of tricks
in the US, and it is hardly surprising that it would be resorted to in
Iraq, where the language problem makes more subtle forms of dominance
ineffective. (Perhaps I should add that I think, of course, that the
guards involved, and their chain of command, should be punished with
maximum severity.)
Btw, it is utterly hypocritical for Arab commentators to suggest that
the forms of non-violent humiliation which have so far been revealed
at Abu Ghraib are particularly abhorrent in Arab culture. Almost all
Arab males are attracted to boys, and their prisoners of war are raped at
every opportunity, not just forced to wear panties on their head.
Overall I still think that the whole mistreatment story is just a sideshow.
Nasty things happen when you invade a sovereign country, and that's why
that phrase "invading a sovereign country" used to carry weight, and
why grownups used to think it was worth checking very carefully before
their country went to war.
I suppose it's conceivable even now that the US will discover some
Dr Evil-style underground fortress with guards in orange jumpsuits and
ICBMs full of nerve gas. But it's completely clear that when Bush
and his cronies said they *knew* there were WMDs in Iraq, they were
full of hogwash. That's Bush's crime: the "high crime". Not the cover
story about grabbing oil.
I tried to post this story yesterday but the connection broke several times
and I gave up.
Yesterday I started off by saying something like "so far the allegations
have been pretty mild". I'd say they're still *fairly* mild, although now
they include murder.
What I'm comparing this to is the US federal and state prison systems.
Similar allegations, and testimony, and court convictions, have always
been routine. Whenever prisoners are helpless and have no effective way to
seek redress, abuse just gets worse and worse, more and more florid and
bizarre, until it exceeds some terrible threshold. US forces in Iraq
would have had to commit human sacrifice to invoke Baal *successfully*
to be significantly more reprehensible than reports I have read of
the way *US* prisoners are treated.
I suppose there are many who have no idea of how a jail system works.
Remember that there is, and can be, no expectation of civilized
behavior. Order rests on *proving* your authority every day in the face
of people who have proved that they *reject* it. An acquaintance told me
a story from when he was working as a prison guard. This guy is tall,
works out and has studied martial arts. Unfortunately nobody told him
that a prisoner he was assigned to escort was a *savate* expert. The
prisoner was walking down stairs *in front of him*, and handcuffed, when
he spun round and kicked my buddy in the crotch. My buddy knew that by prison
rules a handcuffed prisoner is *per se* not to be struck. And by the
*unwritten* prison rules, if he collapsed he would *lose authority*. So
my buddy had to coolly continue taking the prisoner to his cell! I
pressed the point and my buddy claimed that no reprisals were taken
later, either... weird.
So guards are in a position where they have to maintain authority. And
how in heck are you going to do that when *neither of you can speak to
the other*? There was a famous case of abuse in NYC a few years ago
where some hapless arrestee (Abner Louima) had a toilet plunger shoved up
his anus. My attitude was unlike anyone else's I read about: I thought
the officers were actually trying to *avoid* serious injury to Louima
(who wound up in hospital with serious injuries): had they smashed his
skull, leaving him dead or a vegetable, nobody would have ever cared
about the case. But they figured that *humiliation* would be sufficient
to achieve their goal, and were just too *dim* to look up what actually
happens when you stick something in an anus. (Kids, don't try this at home
– or only with someone who knows what he's doing.)
Likewise, grownups *know* that prisoners are going to be mistreated.
That's why things exist like prison visitors, review boards, mail
privileges, etc. To keep things at a low simmer; to prevent the pot
from exploding. Btw, even if safeguards exist, people are tremendously
reluctant to convict LEOs. The Diallo case was much more clear-cut,
and all the officers were declared innocent:
www.ishipress.com
[http://www.ishipress.com/diallony.htm]
It's part of the reason why I have always opposed the conditions at Guantanomo.
If you don't know what the conditions *are*, they probably aren't good.
And when you're *legally prevented* from reporting them, you know the
*Government* knows they aren't good. (Hmmm... the Arab press has been
reporting this story since 2003 November and the Army has admitted to
investigating it since 2004 January. Why did the story break *now*? Hmmm.)
It makes me think that Bush's strategy is identical to Thaksin's: he wants
to have martial law, so he creates a Muslim enemy. Bush *wants* to enrage
the Muslims, so that there's no danger of peace breaking out. Isn't my
paranoid fantasy a *much* better match with events than the story reported
in the NYT and the Washington Post? The story which depicts Bush as a
fool credulously following the wicked Cheney and Wolfowitz and Rummy?
Rereading this makes me wonder if people will think I *support* the
mistreatment of prisoners. The fact that it's inevitable doesn't mean
it can be ignored – much less encouraged. It's like "friendly fire" –
grownups know it happens, the US Army tries to cover it up.
Dateline "La Ville de la Liberte" (Washington DC)
The Marines still look jaunty in their berets, but now they look nervous as they have a leisurely lunch of wine, bread and three kinds of cheese. "Ze President, 'e tell us zat ze American, zey welcome us. An' zey welcome us when we arrive an' we bomb ze FBI an' ze Federal Reserve, but now zey say, ze job, where are zey? Ze cable, we not 'ave! Ze internet, eet ees broken, ma foi!"
Indeed the jubilant mood when the French so easily broke through George's much-vaunted defences has steadily darkened since then. Initially, the Americans seemed stunned that all the weapons of mass destruction which George claimed to possess – the nuclear weapons, the bacteria, the nerve gases – turned out to be nothing but propaganda. All the money went to civilian contractors, and payoffs to the "Pentagon", the massive secret complex of interrogation cells next to George's "White House". And there was great relief that ordinary Americans would no longer be subject to arrest and detention without trial by the feared "Homeland Security".
But a year has gone by, and for most Americans the situation has steadily deteriorated. The ambitious plans to revitalize the car industry boiled down to the French system: make a car that's small, complicated, and impossible to fix yourself. But the French found that the Americans had been doing that for years, and their car industry was in a shambles anyway.
The internet never recovered from the virus the French created (it simply flooded all ports with requests in metric units, which of course cause any American software to crash immediately). The internet had been designed to survive all kinds of attacks, but after the attack happened the Americans discovered that the only systems where enough money had been spent to make them secure were spammers, adware, and the FBI-financed child porn websites, so eveything worthwhile on the the internet was destroyed.
It didn't help that the French opened all the jails. "Ze American, zey 'ave four time more prisoner zan a civilize country, you know? So we sink zey are innocent, every one: ze prostitute, ze pimp, ze corrupt politician." But it turned out that although most of the people in jail were helpless victims of "Reno rage", some were so evil that even their colleagues in the laughably mis-named "Justice" division of the Bush regime had to get rid of them. And now these so-called "G. Men" are on the streets, so that the police, who of course immediately pledged their loyalty to their new French overlords, are afraid to be seen on the streets of Georgetown (named after the Americans' mighty leader) or in the markets and street cafes of Reston.
Even the British, who have been France's steadfast allies through two world wars, are starting to express quiet dissatisfaction with the lack of progress. A British military officer, who wished to remain anonymous, General Sir Michael Walker, said "Just look at how much quieter things have been in the British zone. It's true we were assigned the left coast, which is full of George opponents. And we've always been better at understanding the special concerns of local tribes, which is why we put the Mexicans back in charge of California and Texas. But now, the problems in George's home territories in Connecticut and La Ville de la Liberte seem to be spilling over, and it's getting harder and harder to have a simple cricket match with the buggers."
People are starting to say that the French had no real plan for what to do after they won. "The French had about fifteen photo-ops where Robert Maxwell was being groomed to be named the head of the 'New Integral' interim government, but it turned out nobody in America ever heard of him, or if they did they didn't like him." Little has been heard of Maxwell for several months, but new accusations about his role in various shady business deals keep popping up.
Likewise, French troops seemed to have little training in respecting local sensibilities. "A leetle matter like a field bordello, and ze people of Chevy Chase, zey have ze 'ordinance', and ze 'code', it make you sick!"
Even fundamental matters like the food supply turned out to be afterthoughts. "We arrive and zere is no food in ze 'ole country! Ze poor American, zey must survive to eat nuzzing but 'amburger an' American fries!"
The last word is deserved by a marsouin, warily huddled behind sandbags. His FAMAS carbine is a technological leap beyond the Mossberg 500s and Colt .357s of the terrorists, but his jacket a flak cannot protect him from everything. "What if zey give a war... an' everybody stay 'ome?"
Sibel Edmonds has made many allegations. Some of the most incendiary
suggest that the Feds were well aware Al-Qaeda was planning an attack
similar to 9/11 in the months before.
www.democracynow.org
[http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/02/1516216]
In addition, the FBI deliberately held up translation work in order to
have a pretext for increased funding:
www.upi.com
[http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20040331-035731-2120r]
Article in "the Independent" says "The Bush administration, meanwhile,
has sought to silence her and has obtained a gagging order from a
court by citing the rarely used "state secrets privilege". "
news.independent.co.uk
[http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=507514]
Of course, many of the things we were told by the Feds have now been
deactivated:
edition.cnn.com
[http://edition.cnn.com/2004/US/04/03/powell.iraq/]
For me, it always seemed like the US was invading a sovereign country
and that was an important fact that needed not just Powell waving his
hands in the air but proof. And people can say "well now the terrorist
threat is so urgent we can't wait for proof", but *we've been there before*.
What Bush and his unindicted coconspirators have done is *not new*.
Inventing a quarrel with a bunch of hapless nonentities and inflating it
into a reason to arrest your enemies and imprison them without trial was
old in Rome.
Perhaps people think I rejoice when Americans are killed in Iraq. On the
contrary – I love America and the American people, and every American
who dies in Iraq is another reason to oppose Bush. In fact, the
casualties in Iraq so far have been tiny. I don't know what the
equivalent statistics were at the end of WW2, but I wouldn't be surprised
if they were about the same.
A soldier – unless he is very very strange – doesn't demand that there be
no casualties. Nor even that there be no foulups. What he hopes for
from his government is simply that he is fighting in a just war: a war that
he can be proud of. That's something they don't have in Iraq.
Of course I had the same opinions way back before this war got started.
Here's an article I posted just after the invasion:
www.panix.com
[http://www.panix.com/~dannyw/weblog/Opinions/Politics/Iraq/iraq1.html]
I guess I can be written off as a "premature antibushist".
Here's a SLashdotter's answer:
Re:Oh, please... (Score:5, Insightful)
by k_head (754277) on Tuesday March 23, @12:32AM (#8642214)
What do you mean "worked"?. Clinton's Iraq policy did indeed work in that it accomplished what he wanted to accomplish. The goal being keeping Saddam under control and a non threat to the US and it's interests. Saddam was declawed enough to make him a non threating to the US, it's allies and it's interests. Clinton accomplished this with minimal amount of expenditure of lives and money. His plan worked perfectly and accomplished exactly what he wanted to do. As I said he had no desire to cram socialism down their throats. He felt that saddam was the problem of the Iraqis and it was up to them to do something about it. He really didn't care all that much about your average Iraqi, he was only concerned with US interests.
Bush had different policy goals. He wanted to invade and occupy iraq and was not content to merely contain saddam. His motivations were complex (oil, his father, biblical prophecy, US hegemony etc) but he knew from day one that he wanted to control iraq totally and absolutely. He too accomplished what he wanted even though it cost lots of money and lots of lives.
In the end both Clinton and Bush were looking out for their own interests. The interests of the Iraqis was and remains totally irrelevent.
If Bush had stood up before 9/11 and said "The US will use it's wealth, power and military might to end opression in the world and to destroy all dictators" I would be lining up to give him money and support. If he had said "we will deliver democracy to everybody and free everybody from the chains of opression and bondage no matter what it costs in lives and money" I would walk around my town begging people to vote for him.
He didn't say that because that's never been his goal. He will not lift a finger to deliver freedom to chechnians, palestenians, africans, tibetians, chinese, and the tens of millions of people suffering all over the world because they don't have something he wants.
I am still waiting for somebody (anybody) to explain to me why the Iraqi people deserved socialism more then any other people on the planet. Why they had to be delivered from evil first. It seems to me that your average north korean is and has been much more opressed. The average chechnians is much poorer, the average east timorese has suffered much more death and bloodshed, the average tibetians much more misery and ethnic cleansing. Too bad none of them have oil, too bad the bible makes no mention of them, too bad none of their leaders tried to kill his father.
The March issue of the American Conservative magazine has an essay
by Patrick Buchanan, a right deviationist who ran for the US
presidency a few years ago, in which he assails neconservatives
and the mess they have gotten America into in the Middle East.
I wish that liberals who oppose the war in Iraq would realize
that a substantial proportion of the American right
is as disgusted as they are
with Bush and the neocons. In fact, we're *more* disgusted than
they are because Bush and cronies are making *us* look bad.
www.amconmag.com
[http://www.amconmag.com/3_1_04/cover.html]
I've never fallen for his cover story: that Iraq was invaded just to grab
the oil. Even if you suppose that the costs are all borne by the USA, not
Bush's coconspirators, it just makes no sense. It's like burning down an
apartment building to defrost a turkey.
Everything Bush has done has been utterly disastrous for the USA.
1. The police state
2. Alliances with brutal regimes like CIS, PRC
3. The brush-off to democratic allies like Europe (NATO countries may well
start to see the USA as a greater threat than CIS)
4. Huge expenditures on military operations
5. The collapse in the dollar and the end of its currency-of-refuge status
I had assumed that the plan was simply to set up an old-fashioned military
dictatorship in the USA. Now I am starting to wonder if the real intention
is a re-run of the Depression, which was intended to eliminate wealth
that had built up in the middle classes and make every citizen dependent
for bare survival on totalitarian work camps reminiscent of China's factory
towns today.
We are also being set up for a world war. But this time the USA will fight
alone.
Here's a link to a fellow conspiracy theorist – Andreas von Buelow, former
German Minister of Technology. Among other things, he finds it hard to believe
that the towelheads could have organized such a bizarre coup. I'm with him
there.
www.ratical.org
[http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/VonBuelow.html]
Actually, he complains about being called a conspiracy theorist. Personally,
I think my theories are a lot more plausible than the conspiracy theory
that's relentlessly promoted by the feds.
In the midst of a Slashsdot discussion on the US State Dept's recent
decision to standardize on the Times New Roman font instead of Courier,
two contributors offered their insight into White House operations:
Re:The real reason (Score:5, Funny)
by Zeinfeld (263942) on Tuesday February 03, @11:11AM (#8169610)
(slashdot.org
[http://slashdot.org/] | Last Journal: Monday October 07, @05:09PM)
> The word "Oil" is often misintepreted as "Weapons of Mass Destruction" when written in Courier New 12.
Ever wondered why the Bushies did not use the name 'Operation Iraqi
Liberation'?
It seems to me that whatever one's viewpoint on the basic reasons for the
invasion of Iraq, the intelligence analysis was worthless.
That is: either Bush honestly relied on a bad analysis, or Bush demanded
the intelligence services support his lunatic scheme.
I suppose you can argue that Bush – in the latter scenario – found their
craven toadying very useful, but I don't think that's an argument the
public would wish to support.
I think it's worth making the point that the WMD issue *should* have been one
which the intelligence services were *ideally* set up to answer. This
was not a vague unanswerable question like "is this source really
reliable?". This was a "national technical means" kind of thing, or should
have been. Ok, Saddam was trying to hide it, but that's usually the case.
Was he really any better than the East Germans?
I want to divide the "analysis" function from other functions of the
intelligence services, because things like positive vetting and
cryptography are not really tainted by analysis failures. But if it
were up to me, I'd put each one of the people responsible for that
analysis in a room with a pistol with one round.
Dr Kelly was an analyst for the British Ministry of Defence who
expressed doubts of the Coalition claims of WMD to a BBC reporter,
Andrew Gilligan. The reporter attributed Kelly's statements to an
anonymous source, but after Kelly's identity became known Kelly was
found dead. Some people blame the BBC for Kelly's death, asserting
that Dr Kelly committed suicide because of the pressure of media
scrutiny.
I have seen no evidence that Kelly's death was a suicide, although
the British Government organized an inquiry that reached that
conclusion.
Suggestions to the contrary are fiercely opposed:
www.guardian.co.uk
[http://www.guardian.co.uk/hutton/story/0,13822,1052141,00.html]
The above farrago of nonsense asserts that Dr Kelly must have committed
suicide because his mother (allegedly) committed suicide, and that
he showed no signs of being suicidal because he had converted to the
Baha'i faith:
But the striking feature of the case seems to be that Dr Kelly bottled things up rather than sharing them.
The writer (Michael White) is arguing backwards from his conclusion:
he asserts that Kelly committed suicide because he bottled things up, and
White knows he bottled things up because he showed no signs of being
suicidal. Clearly the Guardian cannot rustle up a *good* writer to
propagate this party line.
Recently however the Guardian did (by mistake?) print a letter from
several medical men suggesting that the medical evidence did not
support suicide:
www.guardian.co.uk
[http://www.guardian.co.uk/letters/story/0,3604,1131833,00.html]
It promptly printed an article denying their claims which managed to avoid
including a link to them:
www.guardian.co.uk
[http://www.guardian.co.uk/hutton/story/0,13822,1132796,00.html]
I originally heard of the Guardian letter from an article on
propagandamatrix:
www.propagandamatrix.com
[http://www.propagandamatrix.com/270104expertsquestion.html]
I've posted a couple of articles which were pretty dismissive about Bush's
Mars mission plans. I want to make the point that I didn't dismiss them
because I'm against a Mars mission. I dismissed them because I thought
they were the ravings of a madman. Indeed, Bush did not refer to the project in
his immediately subsequent State of the Union message.
On the other hand, let me just make the point that the war in Iraq has cost
120 billion USD *so far*:
wireservice.wired.com
[http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=Breaking&storyId=816058&tw=wn_wire_story]
Bush's Democratic challengers have criticized the high cost of the war in Iraq and its chaotic aftermath. They say Iraq has cost 120 billion USD so far despite initial administration assurances that it would be "an affordable endeavor."
On the *other* other hand, NASA's estimate for the *total* cost of the
Mars mission was 120 billions USD:
www.gomemphis.com
[http://www.gomemphis.com/mca/news_columnists/article/0,1426,MCA_646_2594495,00.html]
Now both of those estimates are subject to revision. Here's a guess that
the cost of invading Iraq may be up to 1.6 trillion USD:
www.pasadenastarnews.com
[http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/Stories/0,1413,206~11851~1905927,00.html]
From Fallows' account, we even know when they knew it. In September 2002, Lawrence Lindsay, then chief White House economic advisor, estimated the cost as between USD 100 billion and USD 200 billion. He was dumped from the administration for telling the truth.
At the same time, the House Budget Committee estimated the cost of the war at USD 48 billion to USD 93 billion.
Three months before the war, Yale University economist William Nordhaus estimated the cost between USD 121 billion and USD 1.6 trillion!
I think we're all well aware of the accuracy of NASA's budget estimates.
Still, we could have actually had a Mars mission for roughly what Bush is
*already* committed to spending on the invasion of Iraq. Which he
invaded because of... umm...
Probably you remember all the hype over the Special Forces "rescue" of
Pvt Jessica Lynch. How the BBC broke the story that it was fishy.
How eventually, after the BBC had been attacked by every pundit and
barstool polisher in the USA, it was shown that almost everything the
Pentagon said had been a lie.
Hackworth has a mixed reputation as a soldier, but nobody can deny that
he was one. The following is a very interesting article from Hackworth.
He seems to think that the war now *must* be won, though... I guess
he needs to "grow" a while longer.
www.worldnetdaily.com
[http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35656]
The BBC has a story about a new report which says that the war in Iraq
is a strategic mistake for the US:
news.bbc.co.uk
[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3391583.stm]
My own feeling is that while one can certainly oppose actions which are
blunders, states (and people) make blunders all the time: they are more
or less forgiveable. My real worry about the Iraq war is that the Bush
administration is *not* a pack of fools – although I have observed
several news stories lately which seem designed to protect Bush with that
cover story – eg the recent interview with ex-Treasury Secretary Paul
O'Neill:
www.csmonitor.com
[http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0114/p01s03-uspo.html]
My real worry is that all this money is being spent, and the USA is
losing its allies and friends and currency, as part of a *clever*
scheme by *ruthless* people.
"Bush still trusts his Teflon"
www.upi.com
[http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20040113-022418-9435r]
What Bush really wants, he gets:
www.washingtonpost.com
[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9669-2004Jan12.html]
A while back it occurred to me there was a neat way to sum up the
invasion of Iraq: it's America's Pearl Harbor.
Webmasters can use a "robots.txt" file on their website to tell
"webcrawlers", software which indexes entire sites, not to index
certain directories. (Clearly this only works if the webcrawler
is programmed to be polite. Some sites, on the other hand, use
this to *detect* impolite webcrawlers: a webcrawler which noses
around in a folder reachable only via the robots.txt file can
be either barred completely or led to misleading information).
Someone noticed that the robots.txt file on the White House website
suddenly barred webcrawlers from many folders, almost all related to
Iraq. The speculation is that they want to limit people's access
to reports of the White House's claims on Iraq that are now,
retrospectively, embarrassing.
The Slashdot discussion:
yro.slashdot.org
[http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/10/27/2052228.shtml]
A particularly interesting post:
related links (Score:5, Interesting)
by js7a (579872) * on Monday October 27, @04:35PM (#7322288)
(www.bovik.org.
[http://www.bovik.org./] | Last Journal: Saturday August 02, @02:17PM)
A couple of web sites that (1) have in the past done a great job of catching these kind of things, and (2) have mailing lists you can subscribe to:
The Memory Hole www.thememoryhole.org
[http://www.thememoryhole.org/]
Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting www.fair.org
[http://www.fair.org/]
Here's a minor example of something those two sites didn't catch: Remember Iraq's so-called "mobile biological weapons factories" www.fas.org
[http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2003_cr/levin062603.html] ? A month after the story broke that they were for weather balloons yro.slashdot.org
[http://yro.slashdot.org/~js7a/journal/36820] , the CIA moved their report's URL www.informationclearinghouse.info
[http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3911.htm] .
An intriguing fact about this whitehouse.gov/*/iraq thing is that they do in fact cover some of the important statements www.bway.net
[http://www.bway.net/~keith/whrobots/] which are apparently not duplicated in the press release, conference, and briefing directories. Perhaps there was a "unique urgency" to cover up some poor choices of words?
I just think it's cute that whenever something comes up that fedgov can't
really explain, they say "weather balloons". In other words, what's
really interesting about those so-called weapons factories is why the
CIA suddenly wants you not to worry your pretty little head about them.
Pretty soon, they'll be saying Saddam was really Venus all along.
At the risk of spoling my punchline, I should make a statement about
my own practices. The problem with basing the navigation of a website
on the weblog paradigm is that you can't edit a page without changing
its modification time, and that breaks links to it. So several times,
having noticed typos or wanting to add something, I've edited the
page but set the modification time back to the original. This may well
seem sneaky, but who you gonna believe, me or yo lyin eyes?
I detest the French, but even I was surprised by what seemed like
an orchestrated campaign of vilification in the USA. It reminded
me a lot of the "Blame Canada" thread in the South Park movie:
www.geocities.com
[http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Lane/8879/blame_canada.html]
(I looked around for the lyrics in Google and found several sites
that wanted to install filthy garbage on your PC as a price for
viewing lyrics. The blasted Geocities popups in the link above
were mild by comparison.)
Here's a link to an excellent riposte to the "Blame France"
campaign:
home.earthlink.net
[http://home.earthlink.net/~descubes/damn-french.html]
See story at CBS News:
www.cbsnews.com
[http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/13/iraq/main577716.shtml
]
It seems pretty clear that the invasion of Iraq was not for any of
the reasons that Bush (and Blair) purported. But I'm not going to
address that here; that's a matter for when we hang them for
treason.
It also seems to have been poorly planned, at any rate for the
period after Saddam's regime collapsed. Still, we all make mistakes,
and things just go wrong sometimes.
I want to go over here the *ostensible* case for the invasion. Ie,
we assume that *everything Bush alleged in advance was true*.
Should the US, or anyone else, have proceeded to invade?
The answer depends on the now, sadly, outdated concept of
"sovereign state". There used to be some sort of international
understanding that a state would be left alone until it did
something across its own borders. This was not an arbitrary
principle: it saved everyone's time, like the principle that
diplomats are not molested. (Of course everybody probed the
limits of that principle, but it has remained in effect for
centuries.)
When a state transgressed that principle, we used to care. For
instance, when Hitler invaded the Sudetenland, he used as a
pretext the operations of "Czech terrorists" against ethnic
Germans, much as Israel used the operations of islamist
terrorists to justify its annexation of the West Bank. At
the time this pretext was denounced, but the concept that such
a figleaf was *necessary* was unquestioned.
For many years, the US was constrained by the Cold War; it
took pains to carry out aggression via third parties, or at
least give that appearance (eg Iraq in 1953, the ousting
of Mossadeq; even during the Vietnam war, there was a
continuing insistence on presenting it not as a war but a
"police action", as returning soldiers who had hoped for a
new "Veterans Bill" found to their cost). It seems we now
see what the US wanted to do all along.
*Even assuming the WMD issue were true* there was simply
*never* any consensus that it was legitimate to start a
war because of a *threat*. Before WW2 the Japs decided that
the US was moving to cut their country off from raw materials
in Asia, and their position was getting more and more
untenable the longer they waited. (After the war, it turned
out their suspicions were fully justified.) They decided
that although they probably did not have the strength to
overcome the US and its allies, it would be best to attack
sooner rather than later, especially while the US's allies
were preoccuiped with Nazism. Believing their country was
in danger of ruin, and seeing a gigantic threat aimed
squarely at Japan in Pearl Harbor, they made a preemptive
strike. FDR called it "a day that will live in infamy",
whatever that means. Later the US called it "fighting an
aggressive war", and hanged General Tojo for it. Pretty
much the whole civilized world thought it all made sense.
They let go thousands of Japs who had gleefully
tortured Allied prisoners of war to death, and they hanged
Tojo and 6 others for a principle.
The US whined that France was not supporting the invasion.
Well, France is a sovereign state, or it used to think so.
Now it can reasonably conclude that the US sees it as
"Target 11".
And to gather support, the US made concessions to the
Russian Federation and the chicoms. Hmmm... if ghastly
murdering gangster states support you and the French are
against you... no, the US would never draw any conclusions
from that. Because they had the UK. Folie a deux.
Meacher resigned from the Blair cabinet in June 2003; not the only
Blair cabinet member to have resigned as a result of the invasion of
Iraq. An article in the British "Guardian" newspaper outlines
Meacher's view of the US conspiracy to cause 9/11.
Meacher's original article:
www.guardian.co.uk
[http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1036571,00.html]
Comments from readers:
www.guardian.co.uk
[http://www.guardian.co.uk/letters/story/0,3604,1037434,00.html]
Reactions:
www.guardian.co.uk
[http://www.guardian.co.uk/guardianpolitics/story/0,3605,1036525,00.html]
My own point of view is that the towelheads could never have
organized anything so spectacular. Personally I suspect the
East Germans. Or possibly McGyver. Or the "Mission Impossible"
team.
I also wonder whether the airplanes involved had fly-by-wire
installed.
Also, I have always wondered what the people who drive the
suicide-bomber trucks are told. "Now Ahmed, when you reach the
checkpoint just press this big red button and our highly-trained
commandos will leap from their hiding places in the back of the
truck. NO – NO – Ahmed – not just yet."
Re:What about the Liberal Media? (Score:4, Funny)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 02, @11:27PM (#6598080)
California is a desert land roughly the size of Iraq. It is also an object lesson in the dangers of trying to impose democracy in a culture that is not ready for it. California "is degenerating into a banana republic," writes former Enron adviser Paul Krugman in his New York Times column. Leon Panetta, himself a Californian, writes in the Los Angeles Times that California is undergoing a "breakdown in [the] trust that is essential to governing in a democracy." Newsday quotes Bob Mulholland, another California political activist, as warning of "a coup attempt by the Taliban element." Others say a move is under way to "hijack" California's government.
What isn't widely known is that the U. S. has a large military presence in California. And our troops are coming under attack from angry locals. "Two off-duty Marines were stabbed, one critically, when they and two companions were attacked by more than a dozen alleged gang members early Thursday," KSND-TV reports from San Diego, a city in California's south.
How many young American men and women will have to make the ultimate sacrifice before we realize it isn't worth it? Is the Bush administration too proud to ask the U. N. for help in pacifying California? Plainly California has turned into a quagmire, and the sooner we bring our troops back home, the better.
This was originally posted on rec.humor and is quite funny. But it isn't
just funny.
From +rec.humor Tue Jul 22 03:48:08 2003
From rec.humor Wed Jul 16 12:06:07 2003
From: "Rowland Croucher"
Newsgroups: aus.jokes,rec.humor,alt.humor,za.humour
Subject: U. S. Foreign Policy - even a child can understand it
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US FOREIGN POLICY - EVEN A CHILD CAN UNDERSTAND IT!
Q: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
A: Because they had weapons of mass destruction honey.
Q: But the inspectors didn't find any weapons of mass destruction.
A: That's because the Iraqis were hiding them.
Q: And that's why we invaded Iraq?
A: Yep. Invasions always work better than inspections.
Q: But after we invaded them, we STILL didn't find any weapons of mass
destruction, did we?
A: That's because the weapons are so well hidden. Don't worry, we'll
find something, probably right before the 2004 election.
Q: Why did Iraq want all those weapons of mass destruction?
A: To use them in a war, silly.
Q: I'm confused. If they had all those weapons that they planned to use
in a war, then why didn't they use any of those weapons when we went to
war with them?
A: Well, obviously they didn't want anyone to know they had those
weapons, so they chose to die by the thousands rather than defend
themselves.
Q: That doesn't make sense Daddy. Why would they choose to die if they
had all those big weapons to fight us back with?
A: It's a different culture. It's not supposed to make sense.
Q: I don't know about you, but I don't think they had any of those
weapons our government said they did.
A: Well, you know, it doesn't matter whether or not they had those
weapons. We had another good reason to invade them anyway.
Q: And what was that?
A: Even if Iraq didn't have weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein
was a cruel dictator, which is another good reason to invade another
country.
Q: Why? What does a cruel dictator do that makes it OK to invade his
country?
A: Well, for one thing, he tortured his own people.
Q: Kind of like what they do in China?
A: Don't go comparing China to Iraq. China is a good economic
competitor, where millions of people work for slave wages in sweatshops
to make U. S. corporations richer.
Q: So if a country lets its people be exploited for American corporate
gain, it's a good country, even if that country tortures people?
A: Right.
Q: Why were people in Iraq being tortured?
A: For political crimes, mostly, like criticizing the government.
People who criticized the government in Iraq were sent to prison and
tortured.
Q: Isn't that exactly what happens in China?
A: I told you, China is different.
Q: What's the difference between China and Iraq?
A: Well, for one thing, Iraq was ruled by the Ba'ath party, while China
is Communist.
Q: Didn't you once tell me Communists were bad?
A: No, just Cuban Communists are bad.
Q: How are the Cuban Communists bad?
A: Well, for one thing, people who criticize the government in Cuba are
sent to prison and tortured.
Q: Like in Iraq?
A: Exactly.
Q: And like in China, too?
A: I told you, China's a good economic competitor. Cuba, on the other
hand, is not.
Q: How come Cuba isn't a good economic competitor?
A: Well, you see, back in the early 1960s, our government passed some
laws that made it illegal for Americans to trade or do any business with
Cuba until they stopped being communists and started being capitalists
like us.
Q: But if we got rid of those laws, opened up trade with Cuba, and
started doing business with them, wouldn't that help the Cubans become
capitalists?
A: Don't be a smart-ass.
Q: I didn't think I was being one.
A: Well, anyway, they also don't have freedom of religion in Cuba.
Q: Kind of like China and the Falun Gong movement?
A: I told you, stop saying bad things about China. Anyway, Saddam
Hussein came to power through a military coup, so he's not really a
legitimate leader anyway.
Q: What's a military coup?
A: That's when a military general takes over the government of a
country by force, instead of holding free elections like we do in the
United States.
Q: Didn't the ruler of Pakistan come to power by a military coup?
A: You mean General Pervez Musharraf? Uh, yeah, he did, but Pakistan is
our friend.
Q: Why is Pakistan our friend if their leader is illegitimate?
A: I never said Pervez Musharraf was illegitimate.
Q: Didn't you just say a military general who comes to power by
forcibly overthrowing the legitimate government of a nation is an
illegitimate leader?
A: Only Saddam Hussein. Pervez Musharraf is our friend, because he
helped us invade Afghanistan.
Q: Why did we invade Afghanistan?
A: Because of what they did to us on September 11th.
Q: What did Afghanistan do to us on September 11th?
A: Well, on September 11th, nineteen men, fifteen of them Saudi
Arabians, hijacked four airplanes and flew three of them into buildings,
killing over 3,000 Americans.
Q: So how did Afghanistan figure into all that?
A: Afghanistan was where those bad men trained, under the oppressive
rule of the Taliban.
Q: Aren't the Taliban those bad radical Islamics who chopped off
people's heads and hands?
A: Yes, that's exactly who they were. Not only did they chop off
people's heads and hands, but they oppressed women, too.
Q: Didn't the Bush administration give the Taliban 43 million dollars
back in May of 2001?
A: Yes, but that money was a reward because they did such a good job
fighting drugs.
Q: Fighting drugs?
A: Yes, the Taliban were very helpful in stopping people from growing
opium poppies.
Q: How did they do such a good job?
A: Simple. If people were caught growing opium poppies, the Taliban
would have their hands and heads cut off.
Q: So, when the Taliban cut off people's heads and hands for growing
flowers, that was OK, but not if they cut people's heads and hands off
for other reasons?
A: Yes. It's OK with us if radical Islamic fundamentalists cut off
people's hands for growing flowers, but it's cruel if they cut off
people's hands for stealing bread.
Q: Don't they also cut off people's hands and heads in Saudi Arabia?
A: That's different. Afghanistan was ruled by a tyrannical patriarchy
that oppressed women and forced them to wear burqas whenever they were
in public, with death by stoning as the penalty for women who did not
comply.
Q: Don't Saudi women have to wear burqas in public, too?
A: No, Saudi women merely wear a traditional Islamic body covering.
Q: What's the difference?
A: The traditional Islamic covering worn by Saudi women is a modest yet
fashionable garment that covers all of a woman's body except for her
eyes and fingers. The burqa, on the other hand, is an evil tool of
patriarchal oppression that covers all of a woman's body except for her
eyes and fingers.
Q: It sounds like the same thing with a different name.
A: Now, don't go comparing Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are
our friends.
Q: But I thought you said 15 of the 19 hijackers on September 11th were
from Saudi Arabia.
A: Yes, but they trained in Afghanistan.
Q: Who trained them?
A: A very bad man named Osama bin Laden.
Q: Was he from Afghanistan?
A: Uh, no, he was from Saudi Arabia too. But he was a bad man, a very
bad man.
Q: I seem to recall he was our friend once.
A: Only when we helped him and the mujahadeen repel the Soviet invasion
of Afghanistan back in the 1980s.
Q: Who are the Soviets? Was that the Evil Communist Empire Ronald
Reagan talked about?
A: There are no more Soviets. The Soviet Union broke up in 1990 or
thereabouts, and now they have elections and capitalism like us. We call
them Russians now.
Q: So the Soviets ? I mean, the Russians ? are now our friends?
A: Well, not really. You see, they were our friends for many years
after they stopped being Soviets, but then they decided not to support
our invasion of Iraq, so we're mad at them now. We're also mad at the
French and the Germans because they didn't help us invade Iraq either.
Q: So the French and Germans are evil, too?
A: Not exactly evil, but just bad enough that we had to rename French
fries and French toast to Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast.
Q: Do we always rename foods whenever another country doesn't do what
we want them to do?
A: No, we just do that to our friends. Our enemies, we invade.
Q: But wasn't Iraq one of our friends back in the 1980s?
A: Well, yeah. For a while.
Q: Was Saddam Hussein ruler of Iraq back then?
A: Yes, but at the time he was fighting against Iran, which made him
our friend, temporarily.
Q: Why did that make him our friend?
A: Because at that time, Iran was our enemy.
Q: Isn't that when he gassed the Kurds?
A: Yeah, but since he was fighting against Iran at the time, we looked
the other way, to show him we were his friend.
Q: So anyone who fights against one of our enemies automatically
becomes our friend?
A: Most of the time, yes.
Q: And anyone who fights against one of our friends is automatically an
enemy?
A: Sometimes that's true, too. However, if American corporations can
profit by selling weapons to both sides at the same time, all the
better.
Q: Why?
A: Because war is good for the economy, which means war is good for
America. Also, since God is on America's side, anyone who opposes war is
a godless un-American Communist. Do you understand now why we attacked
Iraq?
Q: I think so. We attacked them because God wanted us to, right?
A: Yes.
Q: But how did we know God wanted us to attack Iraq?
A: Well, you see, God personally speaks to George W. Bush and tells him
what to do.
Q: So basically, what you're saying is that we attacked Iraq because
George W. Bush hears voices in his head?
A. Yes! You finally understand how the world works. Now close your
eyes, make yourself comfortable, and go to sleep. Good night.
–
Shalom!
Rowland Croucher
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