Article 66630 of comp.sys.newton.misc: Path: hustle.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!in-news.erinet.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-200.sprintlink.net!news.crocker.com!wizard.pn.com!satisfied.apocalypse.org!news2.near.net!ceylon!jschettino.gte.com!user From: js12@gte.com (John Schettino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc Subject: Re: NIE ONLY ON MP130???? Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:10:52 +0100 Organization: GTE Laboratories, Inc. Lines: 52 Message-ID: References: <4q9g85$e4p@webprod2.lehman.com> <4qak7s$1im@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: jschettino.gte.com In article <4qak7s$1im@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>, ddj+@pitt.edu (Doug DeJulio) wrote: > In article <4q9g85$e4p@webprod2.lehman.com>, wrote: > >Someone submitted a post that said the current NIE1.0 will ONLY run on > >an MP130, and not a MP120! And that a special MP120 version was due > >out shortly. > > > >Does anyone know if this is correct? > > I can't say for sure. I *can* say that on my MP120, the released NIE > has not worked. > > There are two sample programs available with NIE that I've tested. > One is a simple finger app named "Thumb", and another is a simple "net > test" app that just connects to the echo port of a server, sends text > to it, and listens for a response. > > Neither of these apps work on my MP120. Since NIE is released now, I > feel I can mention my beta experiences -- it all worked under the two > different beta versions I tested. It's just not working for me with > the released version. Ditto for me, the "net test" app failed to work. However, read on! > Is there anyone with an MP120 who has NIE working? If so, did you do > anythign special to get it to work? I'm wondering if more free > internal storage is required for swapping VBOs on the 120. I am getting it to work correctly on my 120 with the beta NewtsCape. Here's the deal. 0) install NIE stuff internally, NewtsCape on 2mb card - internal has 400kb free, card 600kb. 1) freeze everything - and I mean everything - except for NIE stuff and NewtsCape 2) reset - heap's at 70kb - looking good. 3) connect via external 14.4 modem, basic ISP setup for PPP. 4) works like a champ! I'm browsing the web. Heh. Cool. I've been beta testing as well, and the release version seems to be pretty sensitive to low heap. On a 130 that's not likely to happen, but on a 120 you'll want to free up as much as possible. I'm waiting for any official statement of the status on the 120 - AllPen claims it's not yet "fully compatible" in their NetHopper PR, yet I am using it ;) ==-- John Schettino HomePage: http://members.aol.com/pdcjohns Article 66632 of comp.sys.newton.misc: Path: hustle.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!genmagic!sgigate.sgi.com!uhog.mit.edu!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.interport.net!landover.port.net!user From: landover@interport.net (Landover) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc Subject: Re: NIE ONLY ON MP130???? Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:47:50 -0500 Organization: Landover Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <4q9g85$e4p@webprod2.lehman.com> <4qaqe8$asc@samba.rahul.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: landover.port.net X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.0.6b4 In article <4qaqe8$asc@samba.rahul.net>, FlaSheridn@pobox.com wrote: > In article <4q9g85$e4p@webprod2.lehman.com>, wrote: > >Someone submitted a post that said the current NIE1.0 will ONLY run on > >an MP130, and not a MP120! And that a special MP120 version was due > >out shortly. > > > >Does anyone know if this is correct? > > NIE will run on an MP 120, though of course the extra memory on a 130 is a > big help. What won't run on an MP 120 is System Update 526167, which is > for US MP 130's only, and fixes a problem with large binary objects > (VBO's). Apple is working on a version of the update for the MP120, but > hasn't announced a ship date. If the VBO problem doesn't affect you, or > if you're willing to live with it, you can run NIE apps on a 120. I own a > 130 myself, so I don't know how practical this is, but it can be done. The update is supposed to be 1.1 and due in a couple of weeks. The change is supposed to be "one line" having to do with the memory configuration differences in the two models. They apparently know what they are doing and just ran into the Expo pr/ship deadline. So everyone can probably save themselves some "bug report" messages... Netehopper, for example, was just making sure that they were very clear with purchasers, placing a "For 130" sticker on their shrinkwrap packages because it ships with the current NIE included. -- Landover Associates, Inc. landover@interport.net v: 212-759-6400 f:212-980-4523