ACADEMY OF SAINT GABRIEL REPORT 1052 http://www.s-gabriel.org/1052 ************************************ From: "S Friedemann" 30 Jun 1998 Greetings from the Academy of Saint Gabriel! You asked about the surnames , , and , which you said were Hungarian variants of your modern surname. Here is the information we have found. The closest name that we could find is (the : represents an umlaut over the previous letter). It is a German surname for one who limes farmers' huts, stalls, cisterns, etc., found in 1319 as [1] While the name may come from Hungary, we could find no Hungarian name with an <-er> ending, nor one with , so we doubt that we'll be able to trace it back to a Hungarian language form. At best, this looks like a German name or perhaps a Germanized form of a Hungarian name, though we cannot tell what name might have been the source. There are several Hungarian names that are similar in sound, but none that end in '-ler.' If you would be interested in Hungarian names with a particular sound or meaning, please write us and we will provide that information. We hope that this has been useful to you, and that you will not hesitate to write again if any part of this letter was unclear or if you have further questions. Arval Benicoeur, Talan Gwynek, Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn, Teceangl Bach, and Walraven van Nijmege provided research and commentary on this letter. For the Academy, --Arianuia filia Catmaili June 30, 1998 ---------------------------------------- References: [1] Brechenmacher, Josef Karlmann, _Etymologisches Worterbuch der deutschen familiennamen_ (Limburg a. d. Lahn, C. A. Starke-Verlag, 1957-1960).