ACADEMY OF SAINT GABRIEL REPORT 1054 http://www.s-gabriel.org/1054 ************************************ 26 Jun 1998 From: (Josh Mittleman) Greetings from the Academy of Saint Gabriel! You asked for information about or some other Irish place name which means "swampy, flood-prone" and has reference to the sea. Here is what we have found. Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn and Antonio Miguel Santos de Borja, with whom you have already corresponded, are members of the Academy. We have nothing to add to their answer to your question. For your convenience, we include a summary of their comments here. You cited from McBain's on-line Gaelic dictionary as meaning "a land prone to sea flooding". You reported that this source says that is the Middle Irish form of that word. (We don't know this on-line source; can you point us to it?) This dictionary seems to be confusing two similar words. means "place where the sea strikes the land". There are four examples of this placename known [1]. Anglicized spellings (which are good indicators of period pronunciation) include and . means "plain by the sea". We know two examples of places with a form of this name [1]. The anglicized form of the name is . Either name is appropriate for an SCA branch. These names are generic descriptions of places, and the real places which used these names are small enough that the SCA College of Arms will not be concerned about your re-using the name. The first name is a better match for the meaning you want. I hope this letter has been useful. Please write us again if any part of it has been unclear or if you have other questions. I was assisted in researching and writing this letter by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn, Antonio Miguel Santos de Borja, and Evan da Collaureo. For the Academy, Arval Benicoeur 26 Jun 1998 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - References [1] Hogan, Edmund, _Onomasticon Goedelicum: Locorum et Tribuum Hiberniae et Scotiae (An Index, with Identifications, to the Gaelic Names of Places and Tribes)_ (Dublin: Four Courts Press, 1993), p.533. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -