ACADEMY OF SAINT GABRIEL REPORT 2148 http://www.s-gabriel.org/2148 ************************************ 15 Nov 2000 From: (Josh Mittleman) Greetings from the Academy of Saint Gabriel! You asked whether is an appropriate name for a place in medieval Europe. You explained that your shire chose this name because they held fighting practice in a woods near a church, where they could hear Vespers being sung. Here is what we have found. Unfortunately, the name doesn't appear to work as a medieval English place name. We didn't find a place name that incorporates or or the name of any liturgical service, nor any example of a place name that includes the word or . We also didn't find much evidence that the word was used in medieval English place names, and almost none that it was used in naming places where people lived. Modern place names like and appear in period sources simply as 1207 and 1325 [1]. Constructing plausibly-authentic place names is tricky, because modern place naming practices are quite different from medieval ones, and the modern names of places that existed in the Middle Ages have often changed significantly from their original forms. There are several approaches we can take to try to construct a name. If the goal is to convey a meaning, we can examine how the same ideas were expressed in medieval place names. If the goal is to match a desired pronunciation, then we can look for period place names containing similar-sounding elements and see if we can use them to create a plausible name. The answers to these questions will generally vary from one culture to another: The same ideas weren't used in place names in all languages. A place name that's correct for 12th century England might not work in 12th century Italy, even if it were translated element-by-element into Italian. How would a medieval person have named a place to convey that it was a woods or stand of trees near a church? The first step is to identify place name elements that mean "woods, forest, stand of trees". We've found several (some of which have other meanings in some placenames) [5]: <-frith> "woodland" <-grove> or <-grave> <-holt> "a copse" <-hurst> "a copse" (and other meanings) <-shaw> "a woods" <-wood>, often spelled <-wude> in medieval English <-wald> or <-wold> "wood, forest" (and other meanings) <-with> "wood, forest" So how would our medieval man express the idea of being close to a church? We can be guided by real examples like [5]. If that approach appeals to you and your shire, you might consider [6] or "Abbot's Wood". We can put together some more suggestions along this line. We found a few place names that appear to convey some parts of your shire's original idea, although they actually had quite different original meanings. The modern English place name appears in the name 1332 [2]. The first element of this name has nothing to do with the modern word ; the resemblance is coincidental. However, the name or might appeal to your shire members. If you like, we can suggest some likely medieval spellings. You could play a similar trick with the name , recorded as c.1050, 1104-07, and 1131. The first element here has nothing to do with "evening"; it means "level, smooth" [3]. However, or would be a nice Middle English place name. You told us that your shire probably would be willing to consider non-English place names, as long as their original intent were preserved in some way; so we looked at some French sources. We didn't have any better luck justifying a name that means "evensong forest", but we did find another cute possibility. There's a modern place in France called . The backslash represents an accent grave on the preceding letter. The name derives from the Latin "wasp" and it originally meant "the place with wasps". It's recorded in 1195 as , but a form like or probably existed in the later Middle Ages [4]. The Old French word for "vespers" was [7], so the resemblance might have been apparent to the medieval ear, too. We hope this letter has been useful. Please write us again if any part of it has been unclear or if you have other questions. I was assisted in researching and writing this letter by Ysfael ap Briafael, Antonio Miguel Santos de Borja, Maridonna Benvenuti, Talan Gwynek, Matrygg, Hartmann Rogge, Adelaide de Beaumont, Juliana de Luna, Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn, and Dietmar von Straubing. For the Academy, Arval Benicoeur 15 Nov 2000 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - References [1] Mills, A. D., _A Dictionary of English Place-Names_ (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1991), s.nn. Sherwood Forest, Ashdown Forest. Field, John, _Place-Names of Great Britain and Ireland_, David & Charles, London, 1990, s.n. Sherwood. The earliest examples we found of used in place names are the Latin "New Forest" 1086, from Field; 1160-1 and 1179-80, from Johnston, James B., _Place-Names of Scotland_, 3rd ed. (London: John Murray, 1934), s.nn. Forest of Dean, Galtres forest. The earliest example we have of in a habitation name is 1467, from Mills, s.n. Forest Row. [2] Reaney, P. H., & R. M. Wilson, _A Dictionary of English Surnames_ (London: Routledge, 1991; Oxford University Press, 1995), s.n. Songhurst. [3] Ekwall, Eilert, _The Concise Oxford Dictionary of English Place-names_, 4th edition (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1991), s.n. Evenwood. [4] Dauzat, Albert & Ch. Rostaing, _Dictionnaire Etymologique des Noms de Lieux de la France_ (Paris: Librairie Larousse, 1963), s.n. La Vespie\re. [5] Ekwall, s.n. Wychwood has 1204 "Hwicce's forest". For <-hurst>, see [2]. Also Smith, A.H., _English Place-Name Elements_ (Cambridge: At the University Press, 1956), s.v. hyrst. The generic <-frith> was often used as a first element in a name, e.g. c.1240, 1293 in Ekwall s.nn. Firbank and Frithsden. However, it was also used as a second element, as in 1166 "pear-tree wood" (Ekwall s.n. Pirbright). Ekwall, s.n. Chapel en le Frith notes 1332. The element <-grove> or <-grave> is discussed by Smith s.v. gra:f (where the colon represents a horizontal bar over the 'a'). Examples where it is used as a second element include 12th century, 1196, 1349 (Ekwall s.nn. Cosgrove, Howgrave, Notgrove). Modern examples of <-holt> include , which is in one period source, and (Johnston). Modern appeared as in 1505, meaning "woods belonging a man surnamed (Johnston). Examples of <-wold> and <-wald> include 1231, 1300 (Johnston s.n. Cotswold Hills). The element <-with> derives from Old Norse and appears in names like 1201 (Johnston s.n. Askwith). [6] We note 1316, in Ekwall s.n. Chapelthorpe. is an analogous construction. [7] Greimas, Algirdas Julien, _Dictionnaire de l'ancien franc,ais_ (Paris: Larousse, 1997), s.n. vespre.