ACADEMY OF SAINT GABRIEL REPORT 2760 http://www.s-gabriel.org/2760 ************************************ 5 Oct 2003 From: Josh Mittleman Greetings from the Academy of Saint Gabriel! You asked whether <Marguerite Sainteclaire> is an appropriate name for a wealthy French woman born in the 1520s, whether she would have had a middle name, and whether <Margot> is an appropriate nickname. Here is what we've found. Middle names were extremely rare in France until the 17th century, and are much more typical of French naming customs after our period [1]. We recommend that you use just one given name. <Marguerite> is an excellent choice: It appears in many of our studies of French names from the 13th century onward [2, 3, 4, 5, 6]. <Margot> appears as a pet form of <Marguerite> in 13th and 15th century Paris and 15th-16th century Provence [2, 3, 7]; it was probably used in much of France in your period, too. Your surname is also excellent, though we haven't found a specific example in period records. We have examples of several other surnames of the same form, such as the 15th century surnames recorded in Paris <de Saint Amour>, <de Saint Martin>, <Saint Andre/>, <Saint Homme> [3]; and others recorded in Picardy <de Sainte Anstrud> 1438, <de Saint Martin> 1410, <de Saint Quentin> 1438 [10]. There are modern places <Sainte-Claire> in Picardy, Lorraine, and Oise (just north of Paris) [8] and several more based on the name of the masculine <Saint Clair>, several of which existed in your period [9]. Dropping the preposition <de> was increasingly common in the 16th century, especially outside the nobility where the literal meaning of the surname had been lost a century or more before. In short, <Marguerite Sainteclaire> is a fine choice for the 16th century anywhere in north or northwestern France; and <Margot> is probably a fine nickname. We hope this letter has been useful. Please write us again if you have any questions. I was assisted in researching and writing this letter by Aryanhwy merch Catmael. For the Academy, Arval Benicoeur 4 Oct 2003 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - References [1] Perouas, L., B. Barrie\re, B., J. Boutier; J.-C. Peyronnet, & J. Tricard, _Le/onard, Marie, Jean et les Autres: Les Pre/noms en Limousin depuis un Mille/naire (Paris: E/ditions du Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique, 1984), p.12 and following. The authors mention a handful of isolated examples in 16th century Limousin, but quote an author from 1695 saying that double given names or middle names were an innovation around 1600. [2] Colm Dubh, "An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris", Proceedings of the Known World Heraldic Symposium 1996 (SCA: Montgomery, Alabama; WWW: SCA, Inc., 1997). http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/paris.html [3] Friedemann, Sara L. (aka Aryanhwy merch Catmael), "French Names from Paris, 1423 & 1438" (WWW: privately published, 2002). http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/paris1423.htm [4] Friedemann, Sara L. (aka Aryanhwy merch Catmael), "French Names from 1601" (WWW: privately published, 2002). http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french1601.htm [5] Cateline de la Mor, "Sixteenth Century Norman Names" (SCA: KWHS Proceedings, 1994; WWW: Academy of Saint Gabriel, 1997). http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/cateline/norman16.html [6] Friedemann, Sara L. (aka Aryanhwy merch Catmael), "Names from a 1587 Tax Roll from Provins" (WWW: privately published, 2002). http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/provins1587.htm [7] Talan Gwynek, "Late Period Feminine Names from the South of France" (WWW: Academy of Saint Gabriel, 1999). http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/latefrenchfem/ [8] Morlet, Marie-Therese, _Dictionnaire E/tymologique des Noms de Famille_ (Librairie Acade/mique Perrin, 1997), s.n. Saint. [9] Dauzat, Albert & Ch. Rostaing, _Dictionnaire Etymologique des Noms de Lieux de la France_ (Paris: Librairie Larousse, 1963), s.n. St-Clair. [10] Morlet, Marie-Therese, _Etude d'anthroponymie picarde, les noms de personne en Haute Picardie aux XIIIe, XIVe, XVe siecles_ (Amiens, Musee de Picardie, 1967), p.346.