ACADEMY OF SAINT GABRIEL REPORT 2946 http://www.s-gabriel.org/2946 ************************************ 5 Nov 2004 From: Aryanhwy merch Catmael Greetings from the Academy of S. Gabriel! You wanted to know if , which was the name of a character in the movie 'Brotherhood of the Wolf', was used as a French surname between 1300 and 1600. If it wasn't, you asked if we could recommend similar sounding surnames that were. Here is the information we have found. The character in the movie bore the surname . [1] We were unable to find any evidence for this being used by real people. The movie authors were perhaps thinking of , the spelling you asked about, which is a village in Lozere, in south central France, as you found. [2] We found a late 18th century reference to a Comte de Morangies, as well as references before 1740 to a Comte de Morangies and a Marquis de Morangies; this is the earliest that we were able to trace the name back. [3,4] It's not unlikely that the placename existed late in our period, but we can't endorse it as good re-creation without better evidence. We did find similar sounding place names that can be traced back to before your period. The Latin given name gave rise to the places , found in this spelling as early as 1140, ca. 1320, and , found as in 1320. [5] There is also a city in Marne that was recorded as in 1262 and in 1307. Lastly, we found a city called in Oise that was recorded in Latin as in 1180; this likely represents the French spelling . [6] Any of these would be appropriate for a locative byname (one that identifies from where you are), constructed by placing 'of' before the name of the city. If you would like to pick a given name that is appropriate for your period, we recommend the articles linked from the following page: The Medieval Names Archive: French Names http://www.panix.com/~mittle/names/french.shtml We hope that this letter has been useful to you and that you won't hesitate to write us again if any part was unclear or if you have further questions. Research and commentary on this letter was provided by Maridonna Benvenuti, Talan Gwynek, Ursula Georges, and Arval Benicoeur. For the Academy, -Aryanhwy merch Catmael, 05 November 2004 -- References: [1] "Le Pacte des loups" (WWW: Internet Movie Database, 1990-2004) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0237534/ [2] "Lozere Campings" (WWW: Webfrance, no date). http://www.webfrance.fr/lozere-campings.htm [3] "LINLITHGOW, JOHN ADRIAN LOUIS HOPE, 1ST MARQUESS OF." LoveToKnow 1911 Online Encyclopedia. (c) 2003, 2004 LoveToKnow. http://41.1911encyclopedia.org/L/LI/LINLITHGOW_JOHN_ADRIAN_LOUIS_HOPE _1ST_MARQUESS_OF.htm [4] "Ordre Royal et Militaire de Saint-Louis", transcribed by F. Delanativite/ dit Ellie\s & C. Altayrac, 2000. (WWW: Delanativite/ dit Ellie\s Francis, 2004) http://home.tiscali.be/fdde/genealogie/SaintLouisM.html [5] Morlet, Marie-Therese, _Les Noms de Personne sur le Territoire de l'Ancienne Gaule du VIe au XIIe Siecle_, three volumes (Paris: Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique, 1972). III:137b [6] Dauzat, Albert & Ch. Rostaing, _Dictionnaire Etymologique des Noms de Lieux de la France_ (Paris: Librairie Larousse, 1963). s.nn. Morangis, Morangles