ACADEMY OF SAINT GABRIEL REPORT 3029 http://www.s-gabriel.org/3029 ************************************ 22 Apr 2005 From: Josh Mittleman (no address) Greetings from the Academy of Saint Gabriel! You asked whether is an appropriate name for a Welshman of the 12th or 13th century. Here is what we have found. As you noted, both and are fine 13th century Welsh names. However, you misread the table of names in the article where you found them: The names in the first column are modern spellings; the medieval spellings are given in the second column. But it is also important to note that the sources on which this article is based used English spellings of Welsh names: A Welsh scribe would have used different spellings. appears in these English-influenced documents as , , and [1]. More typical Welsh spellings from your period are , , and [2]. is a 13th century English-influenced spelling [1]; in a Welsh context, it was [3]. The word for "son" appears in the English-inflenced texts as ; in contemporary Welsh texts, it was usually [1, 2]. The resulting name, in an English context and in a Welsh context, was pronounced \HREES ahp TEHW-door\, with the \oo\ pronounced as in . We hope this letter has been useful. Please write us again if any part of it has been unclear or if you have other questions. I was assisted in researching and writing this letter by Aryanhwy merch Catmael and Juliana de Luna. For the Academy, Arval Benicoeur 22 Apr 2005 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - References [1] Jones, Heather Rose (aka Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn), "A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names" (WWW: Academy of Saint Gabriel, 1996). http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/welsh13.html [2] Academy of Saint Gabriel Report 2098 http://www.s-gabriel.org/2098 [3] Academy of Saint Gabriel Report 2841 http://www.s-gabriel.org/2841