From RZHOM@aol.com Sun Sep 19 14:59:19 2010
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:58:55 EDT
From: RZHOM@aol.com
To: hal@panix.com
Subject: Re: Charles Krauthammer

Hi,
Dad seems to be making very good progress with the knee.  We see the  
surgeon tomorrow, and hopefully he'll have some answers as to what we can expect  
and when he can resume more activities.  He'll walking well, and for the  
most part without a cane or other help.  He has some rebuilding to get back  
into shape after sitting for such a long time.
 
I don't remember sending or seeing this before, and had always wondered  
about him, not knowing about his disability that's described here.  I have  
listened to him in some debates before and I find I do like him, however 
during  the elections I didn't think he leaned heavy enough on Obama, because I 
have not  trusted him from the beginning.  You do the best job of changing 
that for  me of anyone, but I still don't trust him, but keep trying to learn 
more  about him to take that away.  I did think when I got into this that it 
was  someone taking another persons talk and putting their  slant on it, 
and  from what you say that is the case.  When I have listened to Krauthammer  
before I thought it was difficult to know just where he did stand on  
issues.  He seemed very guarded.  At any rate, thanks for clearing  much of it up 
for me.  As always what he's (Obama) done so far seems much  less 
threatening when you explain it.  I just hope and pray that you're  more right about 
him than I am.  I think that means I still don't like or  trust him, but I 
hope I'm wrong.
 
Love you................mom  PS.  It's a beautiful day here and I  hope you 
do something you enjoy before the day is over.
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/19/2010 1:54:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
hal@panix.com writes:


Thanks, as always.

I hope things are going well for you  and Dad.

You sent me this once before, but I'm glad you sent it  again.  Note the 
lack of a date of this supposed event, just "last  Monday", and the 
elaborate description of the setting, implying an  eyewitness probably just 
a few feet away from him.

The first time I  saw it, I think I took for granted that these were 
Krauthammer's words;  don't recall if I sent a reply or not.

This time I did a search on one  of the phrases, and got this link:

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/k/Charles-Krauthammer.htm

from  which I quote:

Summary of the eRumor:
A forwarded email with  comments by journalist, Pulitzer Prize winner and 
Fox News contributor  Charles Krauthammer about President Obama.
The Truth:
Charles Krauthammer has issued a statement about this eRumor saying it is  
"neither accurate nor authoritative."

He said the email is  "somebody putting his own ideological stamp on and 
spin on my  views."

Krauthammer said, "One giveaway of the superimposition of  someone else's 
views on mine is the rather amusing use of phrases that I  never use. To 
take just a few examples randomly: 'God forbid,' 'far left  secular 
progressive,' 'this is the first president ever who has chastised  our 
allies and appeased our enemies!' 'no country had ever spent  themselves 
into prosperity,' and, the real doozy, 'states  rights.'"

He said his views are clearly spelled out in a series of  columns that can 
be found on his web site.

Krauthammer writes for  the Washington Post and his articles are nationally 
syndicated.   Krauthammer is a regular contributor on the Fox News Network 
and can  almost be seen daily on the Special Report program anchored by 
Bret  Baier.

Now I don't like Krauthammer, from what I've read, and he's  probably hard 
enough on Obama, so it might seem puzzling one of these  hidden group(s) of 
propagandists would do this.  My take on it --  there is a need to produce 
something fresh every day.

I think it  sounds right to you because it's consistent with so much of 
what you've  read.

But addressing some of the points, regardless of who wrote  them:

"He did not come to Washington to make something out of himself,  but 
rather to change everything, including dismantling  capitalism."

I can't see why anyone thinks Obama is out to dismantle  capitalism.  He 
took office in the middle of a terrible crisis where  most economists think 
something strenous had to be done.  The bank  bailouts are debatable, but 
Obama resisted nationalizing the banks despite  many respectable economists 
saying that he should.  The gov't gave  loans to many financial institutes, 
and as creditor, set some  conditions.  The alternative for at least a 
critical mass of  financial institutions was bankruptcy.  Money is not 
based on gold  bars in Fort Knox or Switzerland that will be there whatever 
happens to  the institutions; money is more of a collective state of 
confidence.   If the idea was planted in everyone's mind simultaneously 
that the dollar  had dropped to 10% of yesterday's value, this collective 
change of mind  would actually be self-fulfilling.  Storekeepers would mark 
up their  prices, workers would perceive they were getting a small fraction 
of a  livable wage, and go on strike.  People would stop working; things  
would stop being made or distributed, and become hard to get and  
expensive.  So some kind of attempt had to be made to stabilize the  system 
in my opinion.  It is hard to say if it was done in the best  way or not, 
but there was a surprising consistency in Bush and Obama  actions towards 
the banks, the difference being that with Obama you had a  lot of people 
shouting that it was the end of the world and part of the  Marxist "power 
grab" or some such.  Now the banks are largely back as  they were except 
much less free in making loans (potential borrowers are  out of work or apt 
to lose their jobs, and there is little confidence that  real estate values 
will rise, or at least not fall -- the whole basis of  secured loans), and 
the gov't has I believe been repaid most of its  loans.

Financial reform will mostly take us part of the way back to  where we were 
20 or 30 years ago before massive deregulation.  We  weren't on the verge 
of becoming totalitarian back then, and we're not  today with the lastest 
reforms.

Now health care reform is a large  change, though not as large as it might 
seem because the gov't already  pays for half of health care through 
Medicare.  But it's been  attempted about every 20 years since Truman, and 
I think it the main thing  that stopped it under Truman was Southern fear 
of integrated  hospitals.

There is much to dislike about the current Health care bill,  but the main 
battle was to get some kind of bill.  The filibustering  insured that the 
last 2 or 3 votes had to be bought at a very high price,  which is part of 
the reason bills from the current congress tend to look  somewhat deformed 
in general.  In the future, if the system needs  improvement, no one will 
have as much to gain by obstructing that  process.  Keeping Obama from 
having any legislative victory, or  making the victory as ugly as possible 
has been the name of the Republican  strategy in this Congress.

Hal Morris: hal@panix.com    --  Editor of:
* Jacksonian Miscellanies:   Archive at  http://www.jmisc.net/jmisc
* Tales of the Early Republic web site:  http://WWW.EarlyRepublic.ORG

On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, RZHOM@aol.com  wrote:

> Well I haven't sent you one for a while.  I will say  up front I find  
this
> very believable.  Am I wrong?   Can you convince me?
> Love,  mom
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>  Subject:  Charles Krauthammer
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> Charles   Krauthammer
> Fast Facts :
>
> 1.        Born: _March  13_ (http://www.mahalo.com/march-13) , _1950_
>  (http://www.mahalo.com/1950)
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> 2.        Birthplace: _New York  City_  
(http://www.mahalo.com/new-york-city)
> , _New  York_  (http://www.mahalo.com/new-york-state)
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> 3.     Raised in _Montreal_ (http://www.mahalo.com/montreal) ,  _Canada_
> (http://www.mahalo.com/canada)
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> 4.   Attended _McGill  University_
>  (http://www.mahalo.com/mcgill-university)  and _Harvard Medical   
School_ (http://www.mahalo.com/harvard)
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> 5.     _1972_ (http://www.mahalo.com/1972)  diving  accident  left him a
> paraplegic
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> 6.        Directed _psychiatric_ (http://www.mahalo.com/psychiatry)
> research for  the _Carter_ (http://www.mahalo.com/jimmy-carter)   
administration
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> 7.       Began writing  career in _1981_ (http://www.mahalo.com/1981)  
with
> The New   Republic
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> 8.       Helped develop the  "_Reagan_ 
(http://www.mahalo.com/ronald-reagan)
> Doctrine" in the _80s_  (http://www.mahalo.com/1980s)
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> 9.        Appointed to Presidential Council on Bioethics  in _2002_
>  (http://www.mahalo.com/2002)
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>  Dr. Charles Krauthammer
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>
> We see him on TV every weekday  on the Fox  news channel (not Channel 5) 
at
> 6:30pm. I didn't know  he was an MD nor did I  know he is paralyzed. He's
> quite a  man.
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> Dr. Krauthammer is on Fox News . He is an M.D. and   a lawyer and is
> paralyzed from the neck down.  A friend went to  hear  Charles 
Krauthammer.  He
> listened with 25 others in a  closed room. What  he says here, is NOT 
2nd-hand
> but 1st. The  ramifications are staggering for  us, our children and their
>  children.
>
> Last Monday was a  profound evening, Dr.  Charles Krauthammer spoke to the
> Center for the  American  Experiment.. He is a brilliant intellectual,
> seasoned &   articulate.  He is forthright and careful in his analysis, 
and  never
> resorts to emotions or personal insults. He is NOT a fear monger  nor an
> extremist in his comments and views .  He is a fiscal  conservative, and  
has
> received a Pulitzer Prize for writing. He  is a frequent contributor to  
Fox
> News and writes weekly for the  Washington Post.
>
> The entire room was held spellbound during  his  talk.  I have summarized
> his comments, as we are living  in uncharted  waters economically and
> internationally.  Even  2 Dems at my table  agreed with everything he 
said! If you
> feel  like forwarding this to those  who are open minded and have not 
drunk  the
> Kool-Aid, feel  free....
>
>
>
>  Summary  of his  comments:
>
> 1.  Mr. Obama is a  very intellectual, charming individual. He is not to 
be
>  underestimated. He is a cool customer who doesn't show his emotions.  
It's
> very hard to know what's behind the mask. The taking down of  the   
Clinton
> dynasty was an amazing accomplishment   The Clintons still  do not 
understand
> what hit them.  Obama  was in the perfect place at the  perfect  time.
>
>  2..  Obama has political skills comparable to Reagan and Clinton .  He  
has
> a way of making you think he's on your side, agreeing  with your  
position,
> while doing the opposite.  Pay no  attention to  what he SAYS; rather, 
watch
> what he  DOES!
>
> 3. Obama  has a ruthless quest for power. He did  not come to  Washington
> to make something out of himself, but  rather to change  everything, 
including
> dismantling  capitalism.  He can't be  straightforward on his ambitions,  
as
> the public would not go  along.  He has a heavy hand, and  wants to level 
the
> playing  field with income redistribution and  punishment to the achievers
> of society.  He would like to model  the USA to Great Britain or  Canada .
>
>
> 4.   His three main goals are to control ENERGY, PUBLIC EDUCATION, and
>  NATIONAL HEALTHCARE by the  Federal government.  He doesn't care  about 
the auto
> or financial services  industries, but got them as  an early bonus. The 
cap
> and trade will add costs  to everything  and stifle growth.  Paying for 
FREE
> college education is   his goal.  Most scary is his healthcare program, 
because
> if you  make it  FREE and add 46,000,000 people to a Medicare-type
>  single-payer system, the  costs will go through the roof. The only way 
to  control
> costs is  with massive RATIONING of services, like in  Canada........God
> forbid!
>
> 5. He  has surrounded  himself with mostly far-left academic  types.  No 
one
> around  him has ever even run a candy store.  But they are going to try  
to
> run the auto, financial, banking and  other industries. This  obviously 
can't
> work in the long  run.  Obama is not a  socialist; rather he's a far-left
> secular progressive bent on nothing  short of revolution.  He  ran as a
> moderate, but  will  govern from the hard left.   Again, watch what he 
does, not
>  what he  says.
>
> 6.  Obama doesn't really see himself  as President of the United States, 
but
> more as a ruler over the  world.. He sees himself above it all,  trying to
> orchestrate  & coordinate various countries and their  agendas.  He  sees
> moral equivalency in all cultures.  His apology tour in  Germany and 
England was
> a  prime example of how he sees America,  as an imperialist nation that 
has
> been arrogant, rather than a great  noble nation that has at times made
> errors.  This is the first  President ever who has chastised  our allies 
and
> appeased  our  enemies!
>
> 7.  Obama is now handing out goodies.  He hopes that the bill (and pain)
> will not  come due until after  he is reelected in 2012.  He would like 
to blame
> all problems on  Bush from the past, and hopefully his successor in the
> future.   Obama has a huge ego, and Dr. Krauthammer believes he is a
>  narcissist.
>
> 8...  Republicans are in the wilderness for a  while, but will emerge
> strong.  Republicans are pining for  another Reagan, but there will never 
be
> another  like him.  Krauthammer believes Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty & 
Bobby Jindahl
>  (except for his terrible speech in February) are the future of the  
party.
> Newt Gingrich is brilliant, but has baggage.  Sarah Palin  is sincere  and
> intelligent, but needs to really be seriously  boning up on facts and  
info if
> she is to be a serious candidate  in the future... We need to return  to 
the
> party of lower taxes,  smaller government, personal responsibility,  
strong
> national  defense, and state's  rights.
>
> 9.  The current level  of spending is irresponsible and  outrageous. We 
are
> spending  trillions that we don't  have.. This could lead  to  
hyperinflation,
> depression or worse. No country has ever spent  themselves into  
prosperity.
> The media is giving Obama, Reid and  Pelosi a pass  because they love 
their
> agenda. But eventually the  bill will come due and  people will realize 
the
> huge bailouts  didn't work, nor will the stimulus  package.These were
>  trillion-dollar payoffs to Obama's allies, unions  and the Congress to  
placate the
> left, so he can get support for #4   above.
>
> 10.  The election was over in mid-September when  Lehman brothers failed,
> fear and  panic swept in, we had an  unpopular President, and the war was
> grinding on indefinitely without  a clear outcome. The people  are in 
pain, and
> the mantra of  change caused people to act  emotionally. Any Dem would 
have
> won  this election; it was  surprising it was as close as it   was.
>
> 11.  In 2012, if the unemployment rate is over 10%,  Republicans will be
> swept  back into power. If it's under 8%, the  Dems continue to roll. If 
it's
> between 8-10%, it will be a dogfight.  It will all be about the economy. I
> hope this gets you really thinking  about what's happening in Washington 
and
>  Congress.
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> There  is a  left-wing revolution going  on, according to Krauthammer, and
> he  encourages us to  keep the faith and join the loyal resistance. The  
work
> will be hard, but  we're right on most issues and can  reclaim our 
country,
> before it's far too  late.
>
>  Educate your friends and   neighbors!!!
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