*** 19871031.txt Sat Feb 16 10:32:44 2002 --- 19880414.txt Sat Feb 16 11:04:28 2002 *************** *** 1,20 **** ! Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP ! From: spaf@arthur.cs.purdue.edu (Gene Spafford) Newsgroups: news.announce.newusers,news.groups,news.admin ! Subject: How to Create a New Newsgroup (Last changed: 31 October 1987) ! Message-ID: <2177@arthur.cs.purdue.edu> ! Date: Mon, 2-Nov-87 16:14:40 EST ! Article-I.D.: arthur.2177 ! Posted: Mon Nov 2 16:14:40 1987 ! Date-Received: Sat, 7-Nov-87 04:44:31 EST ! Expires: Sun, 13-Dec-87 14:08:04 EST Organization: Dept. of Computer Sciences, Purdue Univ. ! Lines: 140 ! Approved: spaf@purdue.EDU Original-from: spaf@cs.purdue.edu (Gene Spafford) ! [Most recent change: 31 October 1987 by spaf@cs.purdue.edu (Gene Spafford)] How to Establish a New Newsgroup --- 1,18 ---- ! From: spaf@cs.purdue.EDU (Gene Spafford) Newsgroups: news.announce.newusers,news.groups,news.admin ! Subject: How to Create a New Newsgroup (Updated: 14 April 1988) ! Message-ID: <4016@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> ! Date: 9 May 88 04:36:22 GMT ! Expires: 18 Jun 88 04:36:21 GMT Organization: Dept. of Computer Sciences, Purdue Univ. ! Lines: 152 ! Approved: spaf@cs.purdue.EDU ! Supersedes: <3723@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> ! Original-from: spaf@cs.purdue.edu (Gene Spafford) ! [Most recent change: 14 April 1988 by spaf@cs.purdue.edu (Gene Spafford)] How to Establish a New Newsgroup *************** *** 29,35 **** Note that these guidelines are for new groups in the "regular" Usenet -- conventions for new groups in the alternate hierarchies (such as "alt" and "bionet") may be different and you should consult readers and ! admins in those groups for information specific to those groups. Background ---------- --- 27,40 ---- Note that these guidelines are for new groups in the "regular" Usenet -- conventions for new groups in the alternate hierarchies (such as "alt" and "bionet") may be different and you should consult readers and ! admins in those groups for information specific to those groups. Also ! note that these are general *guidelines* -- there is no guarantee that ! any site will ever issue or honor a "newgroup" request for any group, ! even if all these guidelines are followed. In particular, problems of ! legality, volume and taste may keep some groups from being created in ! the regular newsgroup hierarchy at many (or most) sites, no matter what ! the perceived support; in general, such groups can be created in the ! alternate distributions without any such trouble. Background ---------- *************** *** 86,105 **** through the lists of active newsgroups and mailing lists to be sure there is currently no existing forum for your topic. If there is such a group or mailing list, try using it before attempting to create a new ! group -- it might be just what you want. 2) Determine an appropriate name for your proposed newsgroup -- a name should be informative, reasonably short, and in an appropriate ! top-level hierarchy. Also determine if you want the newsgroup to be ! moderated or not. 3) Post an article to the newsgroup "news.groups" describing your proposed new group. Be sure to describe why you think the group is needed and/or interesting, and what you think it should be named. Ask ! for comments to be posted and for votes to be *MAILED* to you. Be sure ! to cross-post your article to any newsgroups where there might be ! interest, but set the "Followup-to" header so that responses only ! go to the "news.groups" group. 4) Consider carefully all comments and objections, whether posted or mailed. Answer objections and questions in a timely fashion. Change --- 91,114 ---- through the lists of active newsgroups and mailing lists to be sure there is currently no existing forum for your topic. If there is such a group or mailing list, try using it before attempting to create a new ! group -- it might be just what you want. Also determine if there are ! potential objections to the creation of the group based on common sense, ! good taste, or possible legal difficulties -- such groups are best ! left as mailing lists or semi-private hierarchies. 2) Determine an appropriate name for your proposed newsgroup -- a name should be informative, reasonably short, and in an appropriate ! top-level hierarchy. The name should directly describe the purpose and ! content of the proposed group, to aid new readers in selecting it. ! Also determine if you want the newsgroup to be moderated or not. 3) Post an article to the newsgroup "news.groups" describing your proposed new group. Be sure to describe why you think the group is needed and/or interesting, and what you think it should be named. Ask ! for comments to be posted and discussed. Be sure to cross-post your ! article to any newsgroups where there might be interest, but set the ! "Followup-to" header so that responses only go to the "news.groups" ! group. 4) Consider carefully all comments and objections, whether posted or mailed. Answer objections and questions in a timely fashion. Change *************** *** 109,116 **** their advice and concerns. 5) Collect MAILED votes on the issue of the new newsgroup. The ! threshold currently set as necessary for creating a new group is 100 ! more "yes" votes than "no" votes in a 30 day period. a) If you get at least 100 more "yes" votes than "no" votes, post an article to the news.groups newsgroup including the totals and the list of account names of people voting. --- 118,125 ---- their advice and concerns. 5) Collect MAILED votes on the issue of the new newsgroup. The ! threshold currently set as necessary to suggest creating a new group is ! 100 more "yes" votes than "no" votes in a 30 day period. a) If you get at least 100 more "yes" votes than "no" votes, post an article to the news.groups newsgroup including the totals and the list of account names of people voting. *************** *** 130,137 **** 6) Send mail to "backbone@rutgers.edu" and ask that the group be created. You can issue the control message yourself, but many sites will ignore the group unless the control message originates from one of ! the known backbone admins (usually one of: spaf@arthur.cs.purdue.edu, ! mark@cbosgd.att.com, rick@uunet.uu.net, woods@hao.ucar.edu or fair@ucbarpa.berkeley.edu). If the group is moderated, be sure to include information about the moderator and submission addresses in your mail message so that the appropriate postings and databases can be --- 139,146 ---- 6) Send mail to "backbone@rutgers.edu" and ask that the group be created. You can issue the control message yourself, but many sites will ignore the group unless the control message originates from one of ! the known backbone admins (usually one of: news or spaf@cs.purdue.edu, ! mark@stargate.com, rick@uunet.uu.net, woods@ncar.ucar.edu or fair@ucbarpa.berkeley.edu). If the group is moderated, be sure to include information about the moderator and submission addresses in your mail message so that the appropriate postings and databases can be *************** *** 151,156 **** --- 160,166 ---- mail to "backbone-request@rutgers.edu". -- Gene Spafford + NSF/Purdue/U of Florida Software Engineering Research Center, Dept. of Computer Sciences, Purdue University, W. Lafayette IN 47907-2004 Internet: spaf@cs.purdue.edu uucp: ...!{decwrl,gatech,ucbvax}!purdue!spaf