*** 19890514.txt Sat Feb 16 10:32:53 2002 --- 19890903.txt Sat Feb 16 10:32:57 2002 *************** *** 1,18 **** From: spaf@cs.purdue.EDU (Gene Spafford) Newsgroups: news.announce.newusers,news.groups,news.admin ! Subject: How to Create a New Newsgroup (Updated: 14 May 1989) ! Message-ID: <6770@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> ! Date: 15 May 89 04:05:34 GMT ! Expires: 13 Aug 89 04:05:33 GMT Followup-To: news.announce.newusers Organization: Dept. of Computer Sciences, Purdue Univ. ! Lines: 117 Approved: spaf@cs.purdue.EDU ! Supersedes: <6769@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> Original-from: woods@ncar.ucar.edu (Greg Woods) ! [Most recent change: 14 May 1989 by Greg Woods] GUIDELINES FOR USENET GROUP CREATION --- 1,18 ---- From: spaf@cs.purdue.EDU (Gene Spafford) Newsgroups: news.announce.newusers,news.groups,news.admin ! Subject: How to Create a New Newsgroup (Updated: 3 Sep 1989) ! Message-ID: <7841@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> ! Date: 3 Sep 89 22:24:31 GMT ! Expires: 2 Dec 89 22:24:30 GMT Followup-To: news.announce.newusers Organization: Dept. of Computer Sciences, Purdue Univ. ! Lines: 134 Approved: spaf@cs.purdue.EDU ! Supersedes: <7410@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> Original-from: woods@ncar.ucar.edu (Greg Woods) ! [Most recent change: 3 Sep 1989 by woods@ncar.ucar.edu (Greg Woods)] GUIDELINES FOR USENET GROUP CREATION *************** *** 42,57 **** The Discussion 1) A call for discussion on creation of a new newsgroup should be posted ! to news.groups, and also to any other groups or mailing lists at all ! related to the proposed topic if desired. The Followup-to: header should be ! set so that the actual discussion takes place only in news.groups 2) The discussion period should last for at least two weeks (14 days), and no more than 30 days. 3) The name and charter of the proposed group and whether it will be moderated ! or unmoderated (and if the former, who the moderator will be) should be ! determined during the discussion period. If there is no general consensus on these points among the proponents of a new group at the end of 30 days of discussion, the discussion should be taken offline (into mail instead of news.groups) and the proponents should iron out the details among themselves. --- 42,60 ---- The Discussion 1) A call for discussion on creation of a new newsgroup should be posted ! to news.announce.newgroups, and also to any other groups or mailing lists ! at all related to the proposed topic if desired. This group is moderated, ! and The Followup-to: header will be set so that the actual discussion takes ! place only in news.groups. Users on sites which have difficulty posting ! to moderated groups may mail submissions intended for news.announce.newgroups ! to "announce-newgroups@ncar.ucar.edu". 2) The discussion period should last for at least two weeks (14 days), and no more than 30 days. 3) The name and charter of the proposed group and whether it will be moderated ! or unmoderated (and if the former, who the moderator(s) will be) should be ! determined during the discussion period. If there is no general agreement on these points among the proponents of a new group at the end of 30 days of discussion, the discussion should be taken offline (into mail instead of news.groups) and the proponents should iron out the details among themselves. *************** *** 63,70 **** 1) AFTER the discussion period, if it has been determined that a new group is really desired, a name and charter are agreed upon, and it has been determined whether the group will be moderated and if so who will ! moderate it, a call for votes may be posted to news.groups and any ! other groups or mailing lists that the original call for discussion might have been posted to. There should be minimal delay between the end of the discussion period and the issuing of a call for votes. The call for votes should include clear instructions for how to cast --- 66,73 ---- 1) AFTER the discussion period, if it has been determined that a new group is really desired, a name and charter are agreed upon, and it has been determined whether the group will be moderated and if so who will ! moderate it, a call for votes may be posted to news.announce.newgroups and ! any other groups or mailing lists that the original call for discussion might have been posted to. There should be minimal delay between the end of the discussion period and the issuing of a call for votes. The call for votes should include clear instructions for how to cast *************** *** 88,93 **** --- 91,100 ---- of the call for votes on the SAME proposal (see #5 below). Partial vote results should NOT be included; only a statement of the specific new group proposal, that a vote is in progress on it, and how to cast a vote. + It is permitted to post a "mass acknowledgement" in which all the names + of those from whom votes have been received are posted, as long as no + indication is made of which way anybody voted until the voting period + is officially over. 4) ONLY votes MAILED to the vote-taker will count. Votes posted to the net for any reason (including inability to get mail to the vote-taker) and *************** *** 99,105 **** a vote for or against a newsgroup under one name shall NOT be counted as a vote for or against a newsgroup with a different name or charter, a different moderated/unmoderated status or (if moderated) a different ! moderator. 6) Votes MUST be explicit; they should be of the form "I vote for the group foo.bar as proposed" or "I vote against the group foo.bar --- 106,112 ---- a vote for or against a newsgroup under one name shall NOT be counted as a vote for or against a newsgroup with a different name or charter, a different moderated/unmoderated status or (if moderated) a different ! moderator or set of moderators. 6) Votes MUST be explicit; they should be of the form "I vote for the group foo.bar as proposed" or "I vote against the group foo.bar *************** *** 112,119 **** 1) At the completion of the 30 day voting period, the vote taker must post the vote tally and the E-mail addresses and (if available) names of the ! votes received to news.groups and any other groups or mailing lists to ! which the original call for votes was posted. 2) AFTER the vote result is posted, there will be a 5 day waiting period during which the net will have a chance to correct any errors in --- 119,126 ---- 1) At the completion of the 30 day voting period, the vote taker must post the vote tally and the E-mail addresses and (if available) names of the ! votes received to news.announce.newgroups and any other groups or mailing ! lists to which the original call for votes was posted. 2) AFTER the vote result is posted, there will be a 5 day waiting period during which the net will have a chance to correct any errors in *************** *** 123,128 **** --- 130,145 ---- invalidate the vote, and if 100 more YES/create votes are received than NO/don't create, a newgroup control message may be sent out. If the 100 vote margin is not met, the group should not be created. + The newgroup message may be sent by the vote-taker (if able to do so) + or by the system administrator on the vote-taker's machine. If this + option is not available, then the vote-taker should send mail to + "newgroup@ncar.ucar.edu" saying that a successful vote has been run + and requesting that a newgroup message be sent. DO NOT send the vote + results; we can look those up in news.announce.newgroups if we haven't seen + them there already. In any case, please send mail to Gene Spafford + (spaf@purdue.edu) informing him of a successful vote, so he can add the + new group to the official list of groups which he maintains. + -- Gene Spafford NSF/Purdue/U of Florida Software Engineering Research Center,