*** 19900906.txt Sat Feb 16 10:33:19 2002 --- 19910519.txt Sat Feb 16 10:33:24 2002 *************** *** 1,20 **** From: lear@turbo.bio.net Newsgroups: news.announce.newusers,news.groups,news.admin Subject: How to Create a New Newsgroup ! Message-ID: <11576@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> ! Date: 6 Sep 90 16:37:07 GMT ! Expires: 5 Dec 90 16:37:06 GMT Sender: spaf@cs.purdue.EDU Reply-To: lear@turbo.bio.net ! Followup-To: poster ! Lines: 133 Approved: spaf@cs.purdue.EDU ! Posted: Thu Sep 6 17:37:07 1990 ! Supersedes: <11263@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> Original-from: woods@ncar.ucar.edu (Greg Woods) ! [Most recent change: 06 Sep 1990 by lear@turbo.bio.net (Eliot Lear)] GUIDELINES FOR USENET GROUP CREATION --- 1,19 ---- From: lear@turbo.bio.net Newsgroups: news.announce.newusers,news.groups,news.admin Subject: How to Create a New Newsgroup ! Message-ID: <14708@ector.cs.purdue.edu> ! Date: 21 May 91 04:49:30 GMT ! Expires: 19 Aug 91 04:49:29 GMT Sender: spaf@cs.purdue.EDU Reply-To: lear@turbo.bio.net ! Followup-To: news.announce.newusers ! Lines: 149 Approved: spaf@cs.purdue.EDU ! Supersedes: /usr/spool/news/news/announce/newusers/697:<13117@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> Original-from: woods@ncar.ucar.edu (Greg Woods) ! [Most recent change: 19 May 1991 by tale@rpi.edu (David C Lawrence)] GUIDELINES FOR USENET GROUP CREATION *************** *** 42,71 **** The Discussion ! 1) A call for discussion on creation of a new newsgroup should be posted ! to news.announce.newgroups, and also to any other groups or mailing lists ! at all related to the proposed topic if desired. This group is moderated, ! and The Followup-to: header will be set so that the actual discussion takes ! place only in news.groups. Users on sites which have difficulty posting ! to moderated groups may mail submissions intended for ! news.announce.newgroups to "announce-newgroups@turbo.bio.net". 2) The name and charter of the proposed group and whether it will be moderated or unmoderated (and if the former, who the moderator(s) will be) should be ! determined during the discussion period. If there is no general agreement ! on these points among the proponents of a new group at the end of 30 days ! of discussion, the discussion should be taken offline (into mail instead of news.groups) and the proponents should iron out the details among themselves. Once that is done, a new, more specific proposal may be made, going back to step 1) above. The Vote 1) AFTER the discussion period, if it has been determined that a new group is really desired, a name and charter are agreed upon, and it has been determined whether the group will be moderated and if so who will moderate it, a call for votes may be posted to news.announce.newgroups and ! any other groups or mailing lists that the original call for discussion might have been posted to. There should be minimal delay between the end of the discussion period and the issuing of a call for votes. The call for votes should include clear instructions for how to cast --- 41,81 ---- The Discussion ! 1) A request for discussion on creation of a new newsgroup should be posted to ! news.announce.newgroups, and also to any other groups or mailing lists at ! all related to the proposed topic if desired. The group is moderated, and ! the Followup-to: header will be set so that the actual discussion takes ! place only in news.groups. Users on sites which have difficulty posting to ! moderated groups may mail submissions intended for news.announce.newgroups ! to announce-newgroups@rpi.edu. ! ! The article should be cross-posted among the newsgroups, including ! news.announce.newgroups, rather than posted as separate articles. Note that ! standard behaviour for posting software is to not present the articles in ! any groups when cross-posted to a moderated group; the moderator will handle ! that for you. 2) The name and charter of the proposed group and whether it will be moderated or unmoderated (and if the former, who the moderator(s) will be) should be ! determined during the discussion period. If there is no general agreement on ! these points among the proponents of a new group at the end of 30 days of ! discussion, the discussion should be taken offline (into mail instead of news.groups) and the proponents should iron out the details among themselves. Once that is done, a new, more specific proposal may be made, going back to step 1) above. + 3) Group advocates seeking help in choosing a name to suit the proposed + charter, or looking for any other guidance in the creation procedure, can + send a message to group-advice@rpi.edu; a few seasoned news administrators + are available through this address. + The Vote 1) AFTER the discussion period, if it has been determined that a new group is really desired, a name and charter are agreed upon, and it has been determined whether the group will be moderated and if so who will moderate it, a call for votes may be posted to news.announce.newgroups and ! any other groups or mailing lists that the original request for discussion might have been posted to. There should be minimal delay between the end of the discussion period and the issuing of a call for votes. The call for votes should include clear instructions for how to cast *************** *** 116,121 **** --- 126,135 ---- for this group if..." should be considered comments only and not counted as votes. + 7) A vote should be run only for a single group proposal. Attempts to create + multiple groups should be handled by running multiple parallel votes rather + than one vote to create all of the groups. + The Result 1) At the completion of the voting period, the vote taker must post the *************** *** 137,150 **** out. If the 100 vote margin or 2/3 percentage is not met, the group should not be created. ! The newgroup message may be sent by the vote-taker (if able to do so) ! or by the system administrator on the vote-taker's machine. If this ! option is not available, then the vote-taker should send mail to ! "newgroup@ncar.ucar.edu" saying that a successful vote has been run ! and requesting that a newgroup message be sent. DO NOT send the vote ! results; we can look those up in news.announce.newgroups if we haven't seen ! them there already. In any case, please send mail to Gene Spafford ! (spaf@purdue.edu) informing him of a successful vote, so he can add the ! new group to the official list of groups which he maintains. --- 151,165 ---- out. If the 100 vote margin or 2/3 percentage is not met, the group should not be created. ! 4) The newgroup message will be sent by the news.announce.newgroups moderator ! at the end of the waiting period of a successful vote. If the new group is ! moderated, the vote-taker should send a message during the waiting period to ! Gene Spafford and David C. Lawrence with ! both the moderator's contact address and the group's submission address. ! ! 5) A proposal which has failed under point (3) above should not again be ! brought up for discussion until at least six months have passed from the ! close of the vote. This limitation does not apply to proposals which never ! went to vote.