From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane) Newsgroups: news.groups,news.admin.misc Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Yes votes >= 200+2*No Votes Message-ID: <1992Dec17.113806.45717@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> Date: 17 Dec 92 11:38:06 CST References: <1992Dec10.174347.17435@midway.uchicago.edu> Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services Lines: 521 In article , emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire) writes: >... It would be nice if someone with more vote results archived would apply > the proposed rule to them and report the results. Here is a list of 508 passing votes over the last couple of years, and how they would have fared under these rules. Only 152 of the 508 would have passed. -- USmail: Bob Sloane, University of Kansas Computer Center, Lawrence, KS, 66045 E-mail: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu, sloane@ukanvax.bitnet, AT&T: (913)864-0444 Group Name YES NO Y-2*N =========================================================== comp.admin.policy 426 29 368 comp.ai.philosophy 224 32 160 F comp.apps.spreadsheets 147 24 99 F comp.arch.bus.vmebus 227 19 189 F comp.arch.storage 357 11 335 comp.archives.admin 230 11 208 comp.bbs.misc 150 24 102 F comp.bbs.waffle 220 32 156 F comp.benchmarks 294 36 222 comp.binaries.acorn 226 21 184 F comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives 177 29 119 F comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted 166 36 94 F comp.binaries.os2 203 31 141 F comp.cad.cadence 482 35 412 comp.client-server 201 39 123 F comp.compression 406 20 366 comp.compression.research 312 10 292 comp.databases.informix 204 25 154 F comp.databases.ingres 370 20 330 comp.databases.oracle 283 22 239 comp.databases.sybase 202 13 176 F comp.databases.theory 208 14 180 F 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