Scattered Comments Against Abortion Vasos-Peter John Panagiotopoulos II 27th February, 1990 'Uwanted pregnancy' must be the ultimate Orwellianism! How did it get there, by sneezing? How much lnger shall we put up with the disproven cankersore arguments of te freelove, freedrugs, freemoney, nowork flower children? I once read that their Roman sandals and washlessness produced hygeinic ailments unseen for centuries - perhaps AIDS, herpes and chalmydia are such, too. Prostitution, was not curtailed for moral reasons, but for public health reasons! It has been the "feminist" and "sexual revolutions" that have denied women many of the traditional protections - dehumanising women, turning them into disposable playthings, and forcing them to do twice (or more) as much as men in order to survive. [George Gilder, Sexual_Suicide; Maggie Gallagher's Enemies of Eros, rvu CLAllen 2/90 Am_Spec p46+; Sholzhenitsin Mortal_Danger Harper 1980 p32] It may ultimately be technologically feasible to have the entire pregnancy in_vitro, hence throwing the abortionist viability arguments out the window. Indeed 20wk viability now proven, RoeVsWade's middle trimester ceased to functionally exist as the other two became semesters. Most feminist prochoice groups stand to the left of RvW's considering last trimester abortions murder, and thusly to the left of the mainstream, which today does - like RvW - want abortions limited butt is unsure as to how and when. "Abortion is the termination of pregnancy before the fetus is viable (20 weeks), that is, before it is capable of extrauterine existence. When the pregnancy terminates after 20 weeks but before full term (fetus weighing 2,500 g. or more) it should be classified as 'premature labor' rather than 'abortion.'" [p 770 ISBN 0-397-52091-3 Rypin Med Lic Exams 13ed 1981 Lippincott] The head has formed at 13 weeks. [Rypin p 762] At 37 days you can see the eyes, at 56 days the fingers. After four weeks, the original three brain divisions become five. The heart begins beating at the third week. During the third month, there is an almost tenfold weight gain. After seven weeks, the ear middle vestibule is functionally alive. [pp 944-946, ISBN 0-442-21629-7 Sci_Ency, VNR, 1976] Webster's letting the states competitively untangle the issues will result in more legal experimentation, and thusly more deliberation. Transcripts show [22JAN89 WashPost pD1 Woodward] that Blackmun knew he was improperly using the SC to legislate. Abortion is not new - it was banned by canons, including those of St Basil, and by the Apostolic Didache - in those days they used strychnine ratpoison, and along with infanticide, it was one strong reason a lot of Romans turned to Christianity. [?cf Dawson, Building_Christendom?] "The Nohidic law...mandates death for one who 'shall spill the blood of man by man' or 'man within man' / The great medieval Jewish sage Moses Maimonides interpreted this as follows:'a descendant of Noah who killed any human being, even a fetus in its mother's womb, is to be put to death." [D Nissen, NYC_Tribune 29JUN89]. But St Basil's canons were more compassionate: they saw it as a form of manslaughter - and saw they tryingness of the situation [Canons: 2: her that procures abortion 10 yrs penance - whether embryo formed or not, 13: killing at war no communion for three years, 11: invol murderer 11 yr penance, 56: repentant murderer 20yrs] which might be roughly equivalent to ten years denied voting rights. Roe vs Wade indicates that older statutes [eg 1828 NYS], recognised the limit we now refer to as 'viability' (20 weeks) as 'quick' (16-18 weeks, in common law terminology): pre-quick abortions were midemeanors, while post-quick were second degree manslaughter; The limitations of 14 days practiced on embryonic research materials today has an early counterpart considered at 40-80 days, even by Augustine, in placing the soul's arrival -- Yet RvW also attacks the Hypocratic oath as being ethically too strict and rigid! On the other hand, the doctor, who often does little to even suggest alternatives, in my book, is quite the murderer. And when you speak of rights, which right is greater: the woman's right to not have to bear the child for nine months - a temporary inconvenience - or the permanent denial of the child's right to life? As for the coathanger argument, it makes as much sence as saying hitment should be legalised because a vengeful neighbor could leave you crippled by botching the job. How many people would find a qualitative standard based on premature-birth survivals acceptble? What about foetal transplants instead of abortions? If doctors can save an aborted fetus, shouldn't they be required to do so - even at state expence? At the very least, perhaps we should not allow doctors to spend more than a fifth of their time dealing with abortions, and require them to give multi-sided lectures on abortion? Why don't abortion doctors have the same malpractice problems as birth-delivering ObGyns - political pressure? embarassment? How'bout mandatory sterilisation of child support deadbeats if they dropped out of more than one family -- and castrating recidivist rapists? "Since its creation Planned Parenthood has worked for mandatory population control. In 1969, its president, Alan Guttmacher, aserted openly that coercion may eventually become necessary to contain the 'population explosion.'...1985, the Centers for Disease Control reported that abortion is now the fifth leading cause of maternal death...AIDS..condoms - has long been under attack by Planned Parenthood.. aren't effective enough...Margaret Sanger, founder...was a paid worker for the Socialist Party...friends were such Communists and Revolutionaries as John Reed, Julius Hammer, and Emma Goldman..close ties with a number of national socialists..never a nurse, and she worked in public health, as a low-level technician, for only two months..In her newsletter, the Woman_Rebel.. classified Blacks, southern Europeans, Jews, and other immigrants s 'mentally inferior to native-born white Americans'..target..poor.'human weeds'..once said that 'attempts to help the poor are te surest signs that or civilization has bred,is breeding, and has perpetually, constantly increasing numbers of defectives, delinquents, and dependants.'" [Promuscuity & Socialist Eugenics, C. Marshner/ G. Grant, Conservative_Digest, 5/6-88, p71+. Based on Big_Lie: Scandal_Pl_Par, Rev G Grant, Wolgemuth&Hyatt(1988)] Many proabortionists can be made to also talk about their support for euthanasia of 'burdensome' elderly, health care rationing, and infanticide (Baby Jane Doe) - quite often on Malthusian environemntalist bases; yet these limited earth hypotheses have been strongly disproven in Julian Lincoln Simon's Ultimate_Resource [Princeton, 1981, ISBN 0-691-09389-X] which shows that most of our problems decrease asymptotically and hyperbolically (such as price over wage for many raw materials) over time because the human mind is the ultimate resource (eg substitution effects).