-- --- Issues of Orthodoxy in America --- --
		 Collected, Evolving Commentaries by
		 Vasos-Peter John Panagiotopoulos II
     (Opinions taken for discussion - not necessarily author's.)

        While shallowness often brews in  the parishioners who refuse to give
up the  ancestral language they no  longer use or  understand,  there is good
reason   to allow   immigrant parishes  to  use   their  native  toungues  in
services. Schizoparanoid schismatics   will  often  take advantage   of   the
feelings   of abandonment in these  immigrants  if their  assimilation is not
gradualised; even Vaticanist churches have masses  in foreign languages where
recent immigrants  are numerous. When the language  concerned is Greek, there
is a special religious aspect involved, namely that  Greek is the language or
record of Orthodoxy, and  indeed of all Christendom,  so allowing it extended
existance in the New World will  allow for better translation and propogation
of  the faith by those equally  proficient in  both languages. (Incidentally,
all the  evangelists wrote or rewrote  their  gospels in Greek, so  claims of
Aramaic having such  a place is basically baseless.  The bible as accepted by
the Church as a whole was in Greek.) However, the Greek service in America is
much less properly enunciated or comprehensible than  that in Athens, even to
my  American-born ears.    Friends who  are   offspring of  religiously-mixed
marriages tempted to attend    Orthodox services have found   nonEnglish  (or
halfEnglish) services uncomfortable and never returned. And there is no doubt
a bureaucratic lethargy which also  makes the church slow  to change even  in
something as essential  as the language. The   Arab churches changed over  to
Arabic from Greek only in this century, reflecting the Arab invasion of their
lands  more than a millenium too  late.  The Russian  church was granted full
autocephalous Patriarchy  only when enough   time had  passed to be   certain
traditions  were fully understood and  properly  translated.  However, if one
has learned the liturgy in one language, it is quite  easy to pace one's self
with the music even if the liturgy is in a  foreign language.  From observing
the stories told by the  icons, to the  subliminal incantations, to the hymns
sung  by the    entire   congregation,  attending liturgy is     an  all-body
crisis-generating experience and not a spectator sport.

        Political  tragedies gave birth to  many  schismatic groups who still
wish to be seen as Orthodox.  Fortunately, they are  just a very vocal, loud,
rude, but very small minority. In many  cases, the Church has tolerated these
hoping time  would  heal  wounds and  return the   schismatics to  the  fold.
However, many schismatics  find themselves  pleasantly beyond inspection  and
with authority they never  had before, and  so they wish to breed  suspicions
among the  more ignorant in their  flocks, accusing the Church of "Modernism"
"Ecumenism" and "Sergianism". These schismatic  pharisees of "trueness"  even
suggest that a change to English is heresy  (even Anglicanism!) and go so far
to  offer the schizo-paranoid  suggestion that the  USA Constitution was some
sort of "masonic"  conspiracy.  (It is  curious  how, in this,  they resemble
their arch-enemy, the Vatican!  Yet  even some  Vaticanists insist  that only
under some papal    bishop in Wisconsin  is   masonry forbidden.) All   while
accusing the Church of being  too easy on  the heterodox, certain schismatics
have captured  media attention with fraudulent  miracles and  fraudulent icon
thefts,  and have been  known to threaten the elderly  with damnation if they
didn't  make large contributions, as    well as selling  quick conversion  of
heterodox spouses.   While the Church  does  not care if  parishes follow the
pagan Julian or papal Gregorian calendar, the schismatics generally insist on
the  old calendar  and have   hence been  misnomered "old calendrists".   The
schismatics also  present definitely untrue  fantasies of Athonite complicity
in their schismatic ventures.  Moreover, in misrepresenting Orthodoxy in such
an extremist and  maniacal  light, the schismatics  only aid  the enemies  of
Orthodoxy. However, less schismatic and more populous  groups have also found
themselves outside  the full canonical purview of  the church and in so doing
show  a  WASPness-envy and  a  bigotry towards   ethnicity that  only further
divides the church.

        In a pluralistic society, Orthodox find it  necessary to bear witness
of the True Faith  amongst  various heterodox  and even heathens  and pagans.
Moreover, belonging to many interfaith groups allows for a unified support of
common interests of several faiths. This does not  (nor should be allowed to)
mean surrender to these groups. In most cases  it does not matter what groups
you belong to, but how you use your membership; if you use your membership in
a  group to promote  Orthodoxy, you  do good,  if  you promote  the  group to
Orthodoxy, you do wrong.  The Church does, however, forbid interfaith prayers
that  suggest any  liturgical  function or  even if  they are performed  with
liturgical vestments.  The Church  makes clear that NO  communicato_in_sacris
is intended or implied where heterodox are present.

        The  Orthodox faith functions   on  the basis of Apostolic  synodical
consensual due  process, and so  has used this  approved method to  arrive at
theological decisions and otherwise deal with the incomprehensibility of G*D;
those that do not  use these methodologies prescribed  by the Apostles do not
understand  the  Truth. Moreover,  Orthodoxy  uses the Apophatic, negational,
method of deduction prescribed by St  Dionysios Ariopayitis, which constrains
clergy  against inventing bizarre  concepts like  purgatory, the filioque, or
the "unnaturalness"   of contraception. Many  Byzantine-Americans (ie, ethnic
Orthodox)  are   easily deceived  by  Vaticanists  who   have been taught  to
patronisingly smother our differences as if we are just  an ethnic variant of
Vaticanism.  (Ignoring that south Italy  remained  Orthodox a quarter century
after  the schism, until the Vatican  sent in Norman  conquerors, many try to
attribute the schism to  distance between the  Patriarchs of Rome and C'ple!)
Others easily  fall victim to  television  evangelists, abandoning the clever
Orthodox retort "I was born right the first time!" --  as well as the lessons
of how writings  of the (preConstantine)   early church fathers  brought many
converts  to Orthodoxy  from  Protestanism.  Since the   Church is unique  in
providing the fair, unarbitrary,  logical, procedural methods for determining
universal  truths,   it would  be  wrong  to  allow heretical    untruths any
legitimation. This  is why the Church is  stricter against praying with those
who  have rejected the True  Message than it is  in  using caution in bearing
witness before never-believers. This method has provided even for reconciling
what may have very well been errors not in theology, but in translation, with
the  preChalcedonians of Ethiopia, Egypt,  Armenia and  India; while we await
for the preChalcedonians to sign on to the  remaining ecumenical councils, it
is ironic that the schismatics of this century  seek to condemn our effort at
reunion as  one more example of "ecumenism".  Ironically, as well, many times
these schismatics find references to adjective "ecumenical" of the Ecumenical
Patriarchate as  indications of "ecumenism"! It  is on the basis of Christian
providence that the  USA's "Constituauional Anarchy"  prefers the anarchy  of
the sinner to the dictatorship of the Christ-killing pharisee.

        On the  other  hand, many are quick   to condemn the   Church for not
moving quickly enough in its acheiving  an American Church.   It is easier to
do these things now   that  the great  immigration   waves have stopped   and
produced American offspring;   Moreover,  great numbers of  Evangelicals  and
Anglicans are coming to Orthodoxy, the former as they discover the liturgical
and episcopal traditions set forth by the Apostles themselves, and the latter
as their church sadly crumbles. (Some seriously question if these conversions
are lasting, as USA denomination often depends on  neighborhood and pastor of
a highly mobile and religiously-transient population.)   This will occur, but
it will take more time to be  certain that all the  procedural methods of the
Church are used  to assure that excess  haste does not  introduce heresies or
errors.   America has  introduced the Church   to pews, choir  lofts, organs,
retreats and Bible studies; while the Church has tolerated these, we must see
if they are indeed part of  the True Faith, and  this will be understood only
by trial and error, which inevitably takes time. Do retreats and organs serve
the church,  or do  they allow the  laity  a selfish  escape  from more vital
duties, like  the teaching of catechal ("Sunday")  school? Again, the methods
of the Church are slow but sure. Nothing can be  achieved overnight: it is an
intemperate arrogance to    think otherwise -   indeed  it is  troubling  how
totalitarian many appear in trying  to impose their  view on one another. The
Greek word for meek is "praos",  meaning inagitable, namely, without passion,
just as Christ was begotten without passion. Passions rule men and drive them
to do the unintended. Only by abandonment to the total, incomprehensible love
of G*D  can we find  truth. (The mistranslation of "meek"  is matched by, for
example, the mistranslation  of "forgive  us or  tresspasses", vs "remit  our
obligations" cf Rev Dr Leonidas Contos, Lenten Covenant, in the Lord's Prayer
and the mistranslation  of kenodoxia as the vaticomonastologian "self-esteem"
instead  of "vanity"  in the  Faber Philokalia.  cf GOA Bp  Isaiah Liturgical
Mistranslations Chr Activist v9 27May98) Yet, we  should also seek a militant
boldness, an efthikrisia, in which we defend that which is right. St Nicholas
is said  to have punched Arius on  the head and called  him an idiot, yet the
saint's bones still drip pure water. The martyrs did NOT choose a politically
correct  option of practicing   in private so as   to not offend  their pagan
colleagues. Likewise,  the soldier who dies  trying to create peace  is worth
more than the  peace demonstrator  who is merely   trying  to avoid  military
service; too many  of the   unappealling,  ethnocentric, undermotivated   and
unintelligent clergy  that today dilute  our message became  clergy merely to
avoid    Vietnam and such  clergy  find  it less taxing    to favor the (both
religiously  and  financially) less   questioning  ethnicists.   The  empathy
Dostoevsky described for  Pushkin's centenial  is  what makes it so  easy for
Orthodox to assimilate anywhere, just as St.  Basil admonished his persecutor
that he would gladly go anywhere he might be banished because it too would be
part of the same  blessed creation. Yet neither  the antiethnicists nor those
who fear them   are correct  in predicting  a  totally nonethnic   church  as
Bayesian probability shows that "birds  of a feather  flock together" if only
because their similar backgrounds facilitate subconscious communication.

        Asked why the  1980 census showed Orthodox to  be the  wealthiest and
most educated Americans, I once retorted that we had  to reconcile St Basil's
synopsis of the  New  Testament as  "the Commandment  to Become G*D"  with St
Dionysios Ariopayitis telling us that the ultimate knowledge is the admission
of total ignorance. Faced with  such a gulf,  it is  no  wonder that we  feel
obligated to maximally apply  all our gifts  to the efforts of our individual
callings - for each calling, not just the clergy,  is an opportunity to offer
witness of the True Faith to those still blind to it  (in such a way the work
of the   laity is equally  important  to the  work of the  clergy). Given our
immense   contribution  already to the American     experience, it should not
surprise us   to see not  only  Orthodoxy become American but  America become
Orthodox.  Already, the Vaticanists are starting  to neglect us now that they
are achieving majority  status  and do  not need  us  as a   junior coalition
partner. That is why we should set a goal of  achieving a ten percent "market
share"  by seeking large conversions  of  liturgical Lutherans and Anglicans.
This would make  us   the third  largest faith   by,  say, 2015,   after  the
Vaticanists (half)  and Baptists (quarter). Moreover, it  is more complete to
seek the conversion of an entire see than an  entire parish, more complete to
convert a family than an individual, because  the group provides a support to
make the conversion more lasting. Incidentally,  converts also point out that
the longer the conversion process, the likelier they shall stay. Furthermore,
if it is better to convert  a See than a parish,  imagine how much greater it
is to  keep an entire  Ethnos,  a Nation-Church, in  the  Church; yet we must
realise  that the Ethnos here is  America, not the  land of ancestry: this is
the  social contract agreed to by  any immigrants coming here. Ethnicists who
are   quick to  attach  ethnicity to   the Church   often also   fall prey to
continuing  pagan, preChristian  traditions  of  their  ethnicity, which  the
Church has reluctantly  allowed  under the   doctrine of oikonomia.   And the
ethnicists usually attend church only on major holidays and  even then do not
really understand  what  they hear  (for they are  just  as  lacking in their
language of birth as they are in English) and their children are often do not
speak the ancestral language. On the other hand, ethnicists who do not attend
church frequently and who take shortcuts during services may have ancestrally
developed such traditions under communist or  muslim occupation and should be
forgiven for their errors. Special note should be given to how the 28th canon
of the 4th ecumenical synod looks at the interrelationships between diasporas
and autocephalies -  whereas the Pedalion text  of this canon does not openly
support the C'ple claims,  we should find  out why this  claim has been made.
United American Orthodoxy must still be under  some spiritual father because,
as this article indicates, it is not yet ready for autocephaly - moreover the
current     views     on autocephaly  may    have    been  miscolored  by the
Lutheran-emulating concept   of "national church"  which   led to the Petrine
abolition of the Moscow Patriarchate in favor of  a synod, as  well as to the
Greek  independence from C'ple.  (We   should critically examine our  census,
however,  as  the USA census  counts partial,   mixed  heritage; GOANSA's 550
parishes, averaging  200 families or  500 parishioners  each, as  well as the
total  4,000  annual funerals and  10,000 annual  baptisms suggest GOANSA has
only a quarter million souls, and  the combined Russian churches only 75,000,
and the converts never totalling  more than a low,  few thousand. Often it is
converts who make a  fight out of  jurisdiction,  as ethnic Russian  families
easily move between ROCOR and OCA.)

        Many   are attracted to Orthodoxy   because of spirituality, but they
wrongly see Orthodoxy  as  some sort  of anesthetic  valium-trance hybrid  of
Asian and  New Age  religions or as   some sort of  schizotypal "Evangelical"
"Born  Again" experience.   Yet true  spirituality is  more like an agonising
withdrawal symptom, a crisis, as the outer garments  of the skin are the most
addictive   and abusive substance   of all.  Orthodox  spirituality cannot be
practised via  some home-kit do-it-yourself methods,  but rather require that
one  submit to a  spiritual  father the  way Christ Himself  submitted to His
Father. It is  inside the consensual community of  the Church that  one comes
closer to G*D,  for alone it is all  too easy for heresy   to creep into  our
thoughts. Without submission, the obsessive narcissism of the pharisee creeps
in and makes us forget  that the militant, earthly  nature of the  duophysite
Church is but  an endless series of imperfect  tradeoffs between  one sin and
another. (Not to say chosing  the lesser sin  is "ok", for  it is still sin.)
Many who  have  tried the  spiritual  road alone  by themselves  have  risked
permanent  physicial  and psychological damage, as   evil seeks to creep into
fallen  angels  because  of  their   irresolute, intemperate and   incomplete
approach  to spirituality. Do not forget  that Stalin  was once a seminarian!
Klimakios warns  that the higher one  climbs the ladder,  the more temptation
tries to dissuade  him.   Only within  the  Church, within  its received  and
time-tested processes, can one attain spirituality.  Then there is the danger
of the  over-zealous  recent converts who  almost  wish  to become  monks and
bishops overnight; they become  anal retentive pharisees who denounce "cradle
Orthodox" for  not  relly being religious. Such  mis-converts  are often more
interested in opposing abortion  and "ecumenism," or supporting some geopagan
pacifism, than in  participating in the  whole Church. This behavior can also
be  manifested by  those  who turn to the  Church  as a  substitute for their
otherwise dysfunctional lives, failing to realise that one must not sacrifice
up a failed  life but a successful, well-balanced  one. It is  not fasting to
deny oneself that which one would otherwise still  not afford. The lessons of
the  pharisees show us the  danger  of being too   religious, at least in the
outward sence.

        These mis-converts fail to notice for  example that none of the major
non-ghetto factions in  any of the  larger SCOBA jurisdictions really  oppose
assimilation, but instead differ    mainly  on the question  of   gradualism,
depending  on which extremist faction  burnt them most in  the past. Also, in
the interests of church  unity, the hierarchy has  chosen to  quietly appease
all the sides, in fear of creating  more schisms; such diplomacy, however, is
sometimes so obvious  as to not  be believed by  and not gain the  loyalty of
either side. Unfortunately,  this tendency  to see  oikonomia applied to  our
differences  as appeasement  is also due   to protestant influences. One must
also be careful to note  that religious organisations inevitably also  double
as  employers of  last  resort, and   so  low-level staff  are  often totally
ignorant of,  if not    opposed   to,  many  long-term goals.    The  current
anti-assimilative fragmentation of American society  and the attendant ethnic
community  "action" groups (which   are usually funded by  dominant political
machines to keep ethnic groups unassimilated and dependant) is not a uniquely
Orthodox problem. One should also not be so quick  to thanklessly condemn the
ethnic ghettos, who cling  to the idea of the  Nation-Church with a childlike
faith and hence brought Orthodox  witness to America.   They have a hard time
comprehending, even    believeing, that in   1872 "phyletikes  parasyangoges"
(tribal  or racial sub-congregations)  were condemend  by  C'ple.  Yes, it is
offensive to  even their  US-born   children to   hear  a racist   term  like
"homogeneity"  or  to  refer to US-born   Orthodox  as  "expatriates" of  the
ancestral land,  or to  hear  the liturgical  differentiation between  ethnic
homeland "nation" and American (ie, unhomogenious) "people", but these people
just don't  know better  and sincerely think   they are defending   the faith
against corrupting influences. While firmly rejecting their errors, we should
be lovingly   grateful for the   foundations they have  put   for us to stand
on. Meanwhile those in the ethnic Orthodox homelands should realise that just
as a fatimist-fetishist Irishman has more  credibility speaking in America on
behalf of Croatia,  so does a  Greek or Arab  Orthodox  on behalf  of Serbia;
hence  our  assimilation and   our  partaking  more  fully  in  our  American
birthright  is an enhancement  and not  a rejection  of our ancestries.  And,
lastly, as Klimakios said,   anyone can weep   with someone else, but  he who
really rejoices when someone ELSE rejoices is really blessed.

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	In hopes of keeping us all humble and  properly focused (I am greatly
troubled by   the totalitarian, intolerant way with   which everyone tries to
impose their   solutions on others), I  once  again  present my curmudgeonly,
periodic, sad situation analysis of Orthodoxy in America and elsewhere:
	GOA: Split  between Arsedoorians  planning eventual return  to Greece
and  secular sellouts who are all  playing the  papal  game that Orthodox are
really  just an  ethnic variant of  Vaticanism.   Only  about a  quarter of a
million,   mostly centered in  New  York,  Boston and  Chicago,  with growing
numbers in Kalipornia. Most Greeks would do anything  to make Americans think
they are really Italian or French.  Greeks have a way of making up their mind
what you are going to say before you say it and shutting out any inconvenient
information  -  esp  any  information that anyone   other  than their side is
capable of winning.  While Abp Spyridon had serious misperceptions about what
goes on in  America, most of   his opponents have  serious anti-Byzantine and
watered-down misperceptions  about  what Orthodoxy really  is.   About 85,000
dues-paying families.
	USA-Russians: only about 70,000 most of whom vacilate between OCA and
ROCOR,  ignoring hierarchy rantings. Most Russians  would do anything to make
Americans think they are really Anglo or German.
	OCA:  Bankrupt  concoction  of  pseudonationalities trying    to make
another     one up. Stuck   out  on  a  limb  with  autocephaly   that no one
recognises. They see the money  in the GOA  and get real giddy. About  25,000
dues-paying families.
	ROCOR: Refugees  now without a real enemy,  so their paranoia is busy
concocting some. Head-in-sand approach is denying them a major opportunity to
make Russia (and other Orthodox) a viable, democratic, capitalist power. Used
to stay away from other old cal schizmos, but now embracing them.
	Antiochians: Sometimes they   play along with   the Greeks, sometimes
with the Russians.   Sometimes they wanna  be WASP, sometimes they pretend to
be Christian Jews,   other times they  insist  they are Arab (and  that Greek
insistance  on language  scared   away Arabs to Islam    - except that  Greek
actually preceded  Arabic in  their  lands  -  and  the Textus_Receptus   was
undeniably Greek and not Aramaic), other times they say the muslims are Arabs
who invaded their countries.  About 60,000 dues-paying families.
	Converts: Some are no doubt for real, but many are mercenaries, maybe
unwittingly. (For example, they fight the OCA-ROCOR wars with more gusto than
any Russian.)  Some  are on schizotypal  "journeys" and change religion every
decade, as they move or get "born again".  Some are here, not to be Orthodox,
but  to win the   Orthodox over to some   particular  cause they support  (eg
anti-abortion,  pro-ecumenism, or something  else). Probably  in the low four
digits - maybe  as few as 2,000.  Many they are somehow on  a mission to save
Orthodoxy from the ethnics,  like real bad  housguests intent  on rearranging
their host's   furniture.  While converts  average  a  ten  year stay, cradle
Orthodox don't last much after the second generation, so they have nothing to
brag about either.
	Old countries: Vacilating between reviving Byzantine Commonwealth and
becoming pagan secularist theme park tourist attractions.  Greeks mostly wish
Council of   Florence was revived  so   they could have papacy   helping them
against the  Turks  - and oddly  blame the  Russians  for the  Schism.   Some
Russians see their  ENTIRE past, both communism  and byzantism, as causes  of
their  problems.  They see the media's  perception of  fringe western ways as
being   the MAINSTREAM of western   ways.    In both directions  (Europe-US),
information funnelled through secularist central city media fails to manifest
more    spiritual  and  conservative  views.    Post-Crimea  post-San-Stefano
Brit-instigated   split  between  GrecoSerboRomanian and RussoBulgArab  camps
risks being revived.  Both  the church in  Greece and the  one in Russia have
taken the  Lutheran-emulating national church movement  of Peter  the Great a
lot more seriously than  Constantinople has or  realises. The Greek left sees
the Church as a political entity and they see issues  like abortion and women
priests  as  matters  of  leftward  "progress"  while  viewing  monastics  as
"ayatollahs" and they openly seek to find pagan  syncretistic roots to Church
traditions in order to prove a continuity of said  "progress"; they even seek
to play down such hymns as "ypermakho" as being too "militaristic".  Even the
Greek   center seems to  see   the  papacy as  a   "civilising"  influence on
"backwards" clergy.
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A Short Contacts List of SCOBA-Canonical Orthodoxy in America
   http://www.theologic.com/links.html
   http://listserv.indiana.edu/archives/orthodox.html
   http://platon.ee.duth.gr/data/maillist-archives/orthodoxia
   news://alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox
   http://www.russian-orthodox-church.org.ru
   http://www.ecclesia.gr/EngEcclesia
   http://www.myriobiblos.gr/Text_Indexes/english/prayerbook/cont1.htm
Directory listing all SCOBA parishes 800-695-4237 (by OPT)
Orthodox People Together (InterOrthodox Arm of SCOBA)
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Seminaries: 
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ZOE Bookstore (Athens) 14Karytsis GR10561 +301-322-3560 fax1283
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