{"id":176889,"date":"2020-02-26T19:00:00","date_gmt":"2020-02-27T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2020\/02\/26\/a-followup-on-the-debate\/"},"modified":"2020-02-26T19:00:00","modified_gmt":"2020-02-27T00:00:00","slug":"a-followup-on-the-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2020\/02\/26\/a-followup-on-the-debate\/","title":{"rendered":"A Followup on the Debate"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Bloomberg is the principal pic.twitter.com\/RhWCco8hwm<\/a><\/div>\n

\u2014 Molly Lambert \ud83e\udd94 (@mollylambert) February 26, 2020<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

And the Award for Best use of a Breakfast Club Metaphor Goes To<\/i><\/div>\n

First, I now have an explanation as to why some of the more ordinary statements about inequality and the like were booed by the debate crowd, it is likely that Bloomberg bought a significant portion of the tickets, because they cost in excess of $1,700<\/a>:<\/p>\n

Candidates on the debate stage<\/a> were markedly rowdier on Tuesday \u2014 and they weren\u2019t the only ones. Throughout the night, the audience seemingly was, too. <\/p>\n

In moment after moment, including when Sen. Bernie Sanders pressed former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg<\/a> on the overwhelming support he receives from billionaires, the audience responded effusively with boos. Notably, in several instances, the reaction seemed to favor Bloomberg, who was once again confronted by multiple candidates over issues including \u201cstop and frisk\u201d and alleged sexist comments. <\/p>\n

The apparent support for Bloomberg from the crowd raised questions about whether there was an outsized presence of his supporters in the audience, given the extensive cheers he seemed to garner at the event compared to the Nevada debate. Speculation on Twitter was only amplified by a local news article<\/a> that went viral, which claimed tickets started at a whopping $1,750 to $3,200 for donors looking to sponsor a package of events, including the debate. An update was later published to indicate that these ticket options were removed from the Charleston County Democrats\u2019 website.<\/a><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

This is actually kind of reassuring. My first take was that South Carolina Democrats were a bunch or retrograde morons.<\/p>\n

Bribery and corruption actually sounds better.<\/p>\n

My second take is that Buttigieg’s sneering attack on 60’s revolutionary politics was effectively an attack on the Stonewall riots<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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Hearing the first gay presidential candidate condemn the “revolutionary politics of the 1960s” is uhhhhhhh something pic.twitter.com\/YdouVzxq4M<\/a><\/div>\n

\u2014 Gillian Branstetter (@GBBranstetter) February 26, 2020<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

A Morrisette Moment<\/i><\/div>\n

After Sanders responded by calling for nuance in US views toward foreign leaders \u2014 and by tying his views on Cuba to former President Barack Obama\u2019s stance on the country \u2014 Buttigieg argued against Sanders\u2019s position and claimed it demonstrates why the senator is unfit to be the Democratic presidential nominee: <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The only way you can [restore American credibility] is to actually win the presidency, and I am not looking forward to a scenario where it comes down to Donald Trump with his nostalgia for the social order of the \u201950s and Bernie Sanders with a nostalgia for the revolution politics of the \u201960s<\/span><\/b>. This is not about what coups were happening in the 1970s or 80s, <\/b>this is about the future. This is about 2020.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

(emphasis mine<\/i>)<\/p>\n

The, “Revolution politics of the \u201960s,” ended the Vietnam war, gave us civil rights, and was the genesis of the gay rights via among other things, the Stonewall Riots<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Buttigieg would never have served in the military, or married his husband without those pesky 60s revolutionaries.<\/p>\n

Seriously, Mayor Mayo is a poster child for unconscious privilege.<\/p>\n

Speaking of privilege,  Chris “Tweety” Matthews’ grilling of Elizabeth Warren about her challenging Bloomberg on his treatment of women<\/a>, because Matthews cannot imagine believing the woman, is one for the ages:<\/p>\n

During the presidential debate in South Carolina on Tuesday, Sen. Elizabeth Warren used some of her speaking time to remind voters that former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg allegedly once told a pregnant employee of his<\/a> to \u201ckill it\u201d\u2014\u201cit\u201d as in the fetus. Longtime MSNBC host Chris Matthews was, by all indications, appalled by what he heard. But it wasn\u2019t the part about Bloomberg\u2019s alleged discrimination that seemed to disgust him\u2014it was that Warren was making such a fuss about how she believed the woman was telling the truth. <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Why does Tweety have a job?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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