{"id":177071,"date":"2020-01-06T20:26:00","date_gmt":"2020-01-07T01:26:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2020\/01\/06\/the-boeing-737-max-is-toast\/"},"modified":"2020-01-06T20:26:00","modified_gmt":"2020-01-07T01:26:00","slug":"the-boeing-737-max-is-toast","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2020\/01\/06\/the-boeing-737-max-is-toast\/","title":{"rendered":"The Boeing 737 MAX is Toast"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The FAA is looking at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/articles\/u-s-regulators-mull-ordering-extra-simulator-training-for-boeing-737-max-pilots-11578253214\">requiring significant simulator time for 737 MAX pilot certification<\/a>, which would make the MCAS system largely irrelevant, the pitch up issue that it was created to combat was pretty minor from a stick and rudder perspective, and would likely mean that there will be very few new orders for the airliner:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: blue;\">Federal aviation regulators are considering mandatory flight-simulator training before U.S. pilots can operate Boeing Co.\u2019s 737 MAX jets again, according to government and industry officials familiar with the deliberations, a change that would repudiate one of the plane maker\u2019s longstanding arguments.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">The Federal Aviation Administration months ago rejected the idea\u2014which would entail extra costs and delays for airlines\u2014as unnecessary. But in recent weeks, these officials said, requiring such training before returning the grounded U.S. MAX fleet to the air has gained momentum among agency and industry safety experts.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">\u201cThe deliberations appear headed for a much different direction than before,\u201d according to one of the officials, who described increased FAA emphasis on the topic.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span>\u2026\u2026\u2026<span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">Boeing has long maintained 737 MAX pilots don\u2019t need supplemental simulator training beyond what pilots receive to fly other 737 models, a stance that many FAA officials now regard with increasing skepticism, according to the officials.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">The FAA\u2019s changed outlook on simulator training has arisen partly because Boeing and regulators are proposing rewriting some emergency checklists for pilots and creating some new ones, according to some of these officials.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">In addition, one of these officials said, the FAA expects certain cockpit alert lights to be updated so they can notify crews of potential problems with an automated stall-prevention feature called MCAS. Misfires of that system led to two fatal MAX nosedives in less than five months, taking 346 lives and resulting in global grounding of the planes in March.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">Simulator training typically is used to ensure flight crews understand and can respond appropriately to numerous changes in emergency procedures or alerts.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">Since at least early fall, regulators in Europe, Canada and some Asian markets have signaled they are leaning toward mandating extra simulator training as part of their independent reviews of the MAX\u2019s safety.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">\u2026\u2026\u2026<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">Complicating the FAA\u2019s decision is an industrywide shortage of functioning 737 MAX simulators.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">In response, the FAA, Boeing and airlines are considering installing new software in existing 737 NG simulators so they can better mimic the characteristics of MAX jetliners, according to these officials.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">Meanwhile, agency chief Steve Dickson, a former airline captain and safety executive, plans to personally test software fixes and training changes as soon as the end of January or early February.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">A year ago, when the FAA was analyzing earlier versions of MCAS fixes, Boeing argued strongly against upfront simulator requirements. The company said in a letter to the agency that differences between 737 NG and MAX models relating to the MCAS software \u201cdo not affect pilot knowledge, skills, abilities or flight safety.\u201d At the time, FAA and Boeing officials tentatively agreed on training sessions that aviators could perform by themselves on tablets or laptop computers.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">\u2026\u2026\u2026<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">Separately, a broader internal review of the MAX\u2019s design by Boeing, extending well beyond software questions, has uncovered a potential safety problem stemming from the location of certain wire bundles inside the tail.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">\u2026\u2026\u2026<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">An FAA spokesman said the agency will ensure that all safety related issues identified during the review process are addressed before the MAX is approved for return to passenger service.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The central selling point of the 737 MAX was that 737 NG pilots could transition to the newer plane with little more than an hour or so training session on an iPad.<\/p>\n<p>This is not going to happen, and it appears that the timeline of certification for the aircraft is still uncertain.<\/p>\n<p>Unless the name of your airline rhymes with mouth-fest, there is no reason for an air carrier to order a new narrow body from Boeing.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The FAA is looking at requiring significant simulator time for 737 MAX pilot certification, which would make the MCAS system largely irrelevant, the pitch up issue that it was created to combat was pretty minor from a stick and rudder perspective, and would likely mean that there will be very few new orders for the &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[384,365,588,437],"class_list":["post-177071","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","tag-aviation","tag-business","tag-fail","tag-regulation"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/177071"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=177071"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/177071\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=177071"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=177071"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=177071"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}