{"id":177707,"date":"2019-07-05T19:23:00","date_gmt":"2019-07-06T00:23:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2019\/07\/05\/internet-group-brands-mozilla-internet-villain-for-supporting-dns-privacy-feature-techcrunch\/"},"modified":"2019-07-05T19:23:00","modified_gmt":"2019-07-06T00:23:00","slug":"internet-group-brands-mozilla-internet-villain-for-supporting-dns-privacy-feature-techcrunch","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2019\/07\/05\/internet-group-brands-mozilla-internet-villain-for-supporting-dns-privacy-feature-techcrunch\/","title":{"rendered":"Internet group brands Mozilla \u2018internet villain\u2019 for supporting DNS privacy feature \u2013 TechCrunch"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>An ISP group in the UK is claiming that Mozilla is making users less safe by implementing DNS-over-HTTPS, because it won&#8217;t allow the ISPs to filter the sites that the UK government wants them to ban people from.<\/div>\n<p>My guess is that they are really upset because it makes it much tougher for ISPs to collect data to resell to advertisers.<\/p>\n<p>I call hypocrisy for their <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2019\/07\/05\/isp-group-mozilla-internet-villain-dns-privacy\/\">accusation that  Mozilla is an, \u2018internet villain\u2019 for using DNS-over-HTTPS<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: blue;\">An industry group of internet service providers has branded Firefox browser maker Mozilla an \u201cinternet villain\u201d for supporting a DNS security standard. <\/p>\n<p>The U.K.\u2019s Internet Services Providers\u2019 Association (ISPA), the trade group for U.K. internet service providers, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ispa.org.uk\/ispa-announces-finalists-for-2019-internet-heroes-and-villains-trump-and-mozilla-lead-the-way-as-villain-nominees\/\">nominated<\/a> the browser maker for its proposed effort to roll out the security feature, which they say will allow users to \u201cbypass UK filtering obligations and parental controls, undermining internet safety standards in the UK.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>Mozilla said <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.mozilla.org\/futurereleases\/2018\/11\/27\/next-steps-in-dns-over-https-testing\/\">late last year<\/a> it was planning to test DNS-over-HTTPS to a small number of users. <\/p>\n<p>Whenever you visit a website \u2014 even if it\u2019s HTTPS enabled \u2014 the DNS query that converts the web address into an IP address that computers can read is usually unencrypted. The security standard is implemented at the app level, making Mozilla the first browser to use DNS-over-HTTPS. By encrypting the DNS query it also protects the DNS request against man-in-the-middle attacks, which allow attackers to hijack the request and point victims to a malicious page instead. <\/p>\n<p>DNS-over-HTTPS also improves performance, making DNS queries \u2014 and the overall browsing experience \u2014 faster. <\/p>\n<p>\u2026\u2026\u2026<\/p>\n<p>The ISPA\u2019s nomination quickly drew ire from the security community. Amid a backlash on social media, the ISPA doubled down on its position. \u201cBringing in DNS-over-HTTPS by default would be harmful for online safety, cybersecurity and consumer choice,\u201d but said it encourages \u201cfurther debate.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>One internet provider, Andrews &amp; Arnold, donated \u00a32,940 \u2014 around $3,670 \u2014 to Mozilla in support of the nonprofit. \u201cThe amount was chosen because that is what our fee for ISPA membership would have been, were we a member,\u201d said <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/aaisp\/status\/1146803916853645314\">a tweet<\/a> from the company. <\/p>\n<p>Mozilla spokesperson Justin O\u2019Kelly told TechCrunch: \u201cWe\u2019re surprised and disappointed that an industry association for ISPs decided to misrepresent an improvement to decades old internet infrastructure.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>\u201cDespite claims to the contrary, a more private DNS would not prevent the use of content filtering or parental controls in the UK. DNS-over-HTTPS (DoH) would offer real security benefits to UK citizens. Our goal is to build a more secure internet, and we continue to have a serious, constructive conversation with credible stakeholders in the UK about how to do that,\u201d he said. <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>F%$# the ISPA.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An ISP group in the UK is claiming that Mozilla is making users less safe by implementing DNS-over-HTTPS, because it won&#8217;t allow the ISPs to filter the sites that the UK government wants them to ban people from. 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