{"id":178010,"date":"2019-04-01T19:17:00","date_gmt":"2019-04-02T00:17:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2019\/04\/01\/how-bad-do-you-have-to-f-up-in-order-for-ben-fing-carson-to-call-you-out-for-discrimination\/"},"modified":"2019-04-01T19:17:00","modified_gmt":"2019-04-02T00:17:00","slug":"how-bad-do-you-have-to-f-up-in-order-for-ben-fing-carson-to-call-you-out-for-discrimination","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2019\/04\/01\/how-bad-do-you-have-to-f-up-in-order-for-ben-fing-carson-to-call-you-out-for-discrimination\/","title":{"rendered":"How Bad do You Have to F%$# Up in Order for Ben F%$#ing Carson to Call You Out for Discrimination?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>I am not sure where that line is, but Zuckerberg&#8217;s Monster, aka Facebook <a href=\"https:\/\/www.propublica.org\/article\/hud-sues-facebook-housing-discrimination-advertising-algorithms\">has crossed this line<\/a>.<\/div>\n<p>Truth be told, when you sell advertising with the level of granularity that Facebook offers, it is clear that a significant portion of your customers will use it to indulge in their own bigotries.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, this problem appears to be endemic to internet businesses, which raises the question, &#8220;Is this a bug, or a feature?&#8221;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: blue;\">The Department of Housing and Urban Development announced Thursday it is suing Facebook for violating the Fair Housing Act by allowing advertisers to limit housing ads based on race, gender and other characteristics. <\/p>\n<p>The agency also said Facebook\u2019s ad system discriminates against users even when advertisers did not choose to do so. <\/p>\n<p>ProPublica first reported in 2016 that Facebook allowed housing advertisers to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.propublica.org\/article\/facebook-lets-advertisers-exclude-users-by-race\">exclude users by race<\/a>. Then in 2017, ProPublica found that \u2014 despite Facebook\u2019s promised changes \u2014 the company was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.propublica.org\/article\/facebook-advertising-discrimination-housing-race-sex-national-origin\">still letting advertisers<\/a> exclude users by race, gender, ethnicity, family status, ability and other characteristics.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cFacebook is discriminating against people based upon who they are and where they live,\u201d HUD Secretary Ben Carson said in a statement. \u201cUsing a computer to limit a person\u2019s housing choices can be just as discriminatory as slamming a door in someone\u2019s face.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>\u2026\u2026\u2026<\/p>\n<p>HUD\u2019s suit comes a week after Facebook announced <a href=\"https:\/\/www.propublica.org\/article\/facebook-ads-discrimination-settlement-housing-employment-credit\">sweeping changes<\/a> to its advertising portal, preventing landlords, employers and lenders from discriminating in housing, employment or credit ads. <\/p>\n<p>Facebook also disputed HUD\u2019s conclusion that the system itself discriminates beyond advertisers\u2019 choices: \u201cHUD had no evidence and finding that our AI systems discriminate against people.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>A Facebook spokesperson told ProPublica that the company declined to give HUD data about who is actually seeing ads because of privacy concerns. <\/p>\n<p>\u2026\u2026\u2026 <\/p>\n<p>Facebook\u2019s previous response to HUD contended that advertisers \u2014 not the company \u2014 were responsible for targeting ads. In March 2018, Facebook spokesman Joe Osborne said at the time: \u201cThere is absolutely no place for discrimination on Facebook. We believe this lawsuit is without merit, and we will defend ourselves vigorously.\u201d <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Well, they would say that, wouldn&#8217;t they?&nbsp; (Mandy Rice-Davies applies) <\/p>\n<div data-gtm-vis-first-on-screen-452638_192=\"366332\" data-gtm-vis-has-fired-452638_192=\"1\" data-gtm-vis-total-visible-time-452638_192=\"100\" data-pp-blocktype=\"copy\" data-pp-><\/div>\n<div data-gtm-vis-first-on-screen-452638_192=\"340859\" data-gtm-vis-has-fired-452638_192=\"1\" data-gtm-vis-recent-on-screen-452638_192=\"340859\" data-gtm-vis-total-visible-time-452638_192=\"100\" data-pp-blocktype=\"copy\" data-pp-><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I am not sure where that line is, but Zuckerberg&#8217;s Monster, aka Facebook has crossed this line. Truth be told, when you sell advertising with the level of granularity that Facebook offers, it is clear that a significant portion of your customers will use it to indulge in their own bigotries. In fact, this problem &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[365,368,367,437],"class_list":["post-178010","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","tag-business","tag-corruption","tag-internet","tag-regulation"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/178010"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=178010"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/178010\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=178010"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=178010"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=178010"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}