{"id":180225,"date":"2017-06-19T20:59:00","date_gmt":"2017-06-20T01:59:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2017\/06\/19\/good-point-9\/"},"modified":"2017-06-19T20:59:00","modified_gmt":"2017-06-20T01:59:00","slug":"good-point-9","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2017\/06\/19\/good-point-9\/","title":{"rendered":"Good Point\u2026\u2026\u2026"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Chris Dillow makes a very good point, that the fire at the Grenfill highlights an important point, that <a href=\"http:\/\/stumblingandmumbling.typepad.com\/stumbling_and_mumbling\/2017\/06\/the-end-of-the-cosy-game-of-politics.html\">politics is actually a life and death, and not a chummy sporting event where civility is prized above all else<\/a>.<br \/>While I disagree that with Mr. Dillow&#8217;s hope that this tragedy will lead to a change in politics is viewed by our politicians and pundits, he is right about the reality of politics.<\/p>\n<p>This sh%$ is real:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: blue;\">There\u2019s one aspect of the Grenfell catastrophe that is perhaps under-appreciated \u2013 that it should finally kill off what is perhaps the dominant conception of politics in the media. <\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m thinking here of the idea that politics is an Oxford Union-style game. There\u2019s jockeying for position, gossip and backbiting in which (over)-<a href=\"http:\/\/stumblingandmumbling.typepad.com\/stumbling_and_mumbling\/2017\/05\/costs-of-overconfidence.html\">confidence<\/a>, fluency and a particular conception of \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/stumblingandmumbling.typepad.com\/stumbling_and_mumbling\/2012\/11\/credibility.html\">credibility<\/a>\u201d are prized above all, but the game is mostly among jolly good chaps. And it\u2019s a low-stakes one. The worst crime is to conduct a \u201ccar crash\u201d <a href=\"http:\/\/stumblingandmumbling.typepad.com\/stumbling_and_mumbling\/2017\/05\/scale-neglect-and-bad-interviews.html\">interview<\/a>, and the losers retire to spend more time with their trust funds and sinecures. <\/p>\n<p>We see this idea of politics in the matey undertow between presenters such as John Pienaar and Andrew Neil and their narrow roster of guests; the idea that politics is something that only happens in Westminster; the ostracism and patronizing of those whose class, gender or ethnicity excludes them from the game, such as John Prescott, Angela Rayner and Diane Abbott; and the popularity of Boris Johnson, the epitome of Oxford Union politics. One reason why John McDonnell is so <a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/comment\/telegraph-view\/11893307\/The-disturbing-roots-of-Corbynism-exposed.html\">hated<\/a> is that he sees that politics is not just a debating game. <\/p>\n<p>This idea of politics is, though, a lie. The truth is that politics has always been a matter of life and death \u2013 especially (though not only) for the worst off. <\/p>\n<p>For me, one of the most memorable political exchanges of the 1980s was when a heckler shouted to Neil Kinnock that Thatcher had \u201cshowed guts\u201d, to which Kinnock <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/politics\/1983\/jun\/07\/past.richardnortontaylor\">replied<\/a>: &#8220;It&#8217;s a pity others had to leave theirs on the ground at Goose Green to prove it.&#8221; That retort caused outrage because it reminded the political class of the nasty fact that political decisions, rightly or wrongly, have lethal consequences. <\/p>\n<p>\u2026\u2026\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Herein lies my hope. Grenfell might \u2013 just might &#8211; be a turning point. It shows that politics can no longer be seen as a debating game from which the poor are excluded. It must instead become a serious matter which has life and death consequences, in which the interests and voices of the worst off are finally given full value, and in which there&#8217;s no place for childish games.  <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I hopes that this horrific event will lead the political class, will take politics more seriously as a result.<\/p>\n<p>I despair of this ever happening.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Chris Dillow makes a very good point, that the fire at the Grenfill highlights an important point, that politics is actually a life and death, and not a chummy sporting event where civility is prized above all else.While I disagree that with Mr. Dillow&#8217;s hope that this tragedy will lead to a change in politics &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[374,437,548],"class_list":["post-180225","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","tag-politics","tag-regulation","tag-safety"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/180225"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=180225"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/180225\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=180225"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=180225"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=180225"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}