{"id":181124,"date":"2016-09-23T18:17:00","date_gmt":"2016-09-23T23:17:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2016\/09\/23\/lets-talk-about-the-backstory-here\/"},"modified":"2016-09-23T18:17:00","modified_gmt":"2016-09-23T23:17:00","slug":"lets-talk-about-the-backstory-here","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2016\/09\/23\/lets-talk-about-the-backstory-here\/","title":{"rendered":"Let&#8217;s Talk About the Backstory Here"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>When Dassault won the  medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) contract, it wanted to partner with Reliance Industries, but the <a href=\"http:\/\/40yrs.blogspot.com\/2015\/05\/the-french-finally-start-making-foreign.html\">Indian Government insisted on local co-production be conducted by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL)<\/a>, the company that took over 30 years to deliver the massively under-performing Tejas fighter aircraft.<\/p>\n<p>When Dassault saw the level of technical competence at HAL, they refused to work with them, figuring that it would be a complete horror show, and they would be on the hook for this, so now we have India <a href=\"https:\/\/www.flightglobal.com\/news\/articles\/india-signs-36-unit-rafale-contract-429646\/\">signing a deal for 36 French made fighters<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: blue;\">India has concluded a deal to acquire 36 Dassault Rafale fighters, with a contract signed in New Delhi by the nation\u2019s defence minister, Manohar Parrikar, and his French counterpart Jean-Yves Le Drian on 23 September.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">The deal is worth \u20ac7.75 billion ($8.69 billion) for the French-built aircraft along with associated weapons and a support package.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">Finalisation of the contract brings to a close a long-running acquisition process to equip the Indian air force with the Rafale, which was selected as the winner of its medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) tender in 2012, defeating the Boeing F\/A-18E\/F Super Hornet and Eurofighter Typhoon. Other previous candidates for the deal included the Lockheed Martin F-16, RAC MiG-35 and Saab Gripen.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">The air force was originally slated to acquire 126 aircraft via the programme, but the original deal ran aground over cost concerns. [Cost concerns my ass.  Dassault found HAL incapable of executing a co-production deal] It was revived by Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi during his visit to France in 2105, when he declared that 36 aircraft would be acquired in \u201cfly-away\u201d condition from Dassault. This was keeping in view the \u201ccritical operational necessity\u201d of the service, he said at the time.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This was the Rafale&#8217;s first foreign sale, and it was a very big deal for Dassault, but they could not get co-production to work, but the fact that they had this order made it a viable choice on other foreign markets, which is why there are sales to Egypt and Qatar as well, so the deal, even if much diminished was a lifesaver for the Rafale production line.<\/p>\n<p>The ineptitude of the Indian defense establishment in developing new systems (see the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/HAL_Tejas\">Tejas<\/a>, the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Arjun_(tank)\">Arjun<\/a> tank, the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/INSAS_rifle\">INSAS rifle system<\/a>, etc.) remains staggering.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When Dassault won the medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) contract, it wanted to partner with Reliance Industries, but the Indian Government insisted on local co-production be conducted by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), the company that took over 30 years to deliver the massively under-performing Tejas fighter aircraft. When Dassault saw the level of technical competence &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[950,772,778,820,832],"class_list":["post-181124","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","tag-aggravation","tag-aviation","tag-defense-procurement","tag-military","tag-south-asia"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/181124"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=181124"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/181124\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=181124"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=181124"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=181124"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}