{"id":182667,"date":"2015-07-07T17:59:00","date_gmt":"2015-07-07T22:59:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2015\/07\/07\/yes-it-is-hypocrisy-on-a-historical-scale\/"},"modified":"2015-07-07T17:59:00","modified_gmt":"2015-07-07T22:59:00","slug":"yes-it-is-hypocrisy-on-a-historical-scale","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2015\/07\/07\/yes-it-is-hypocrisy-on-a-historical-scale\/","title":{"rendered":"Yes, It Is Hypocrisy on a Historical Scale"},"content":{"rendered":"

Thomas Piketty, economist and author of last year’s must read book, Capital in the Twenty-First Century<\/i>, a treatise on the economic forces leading to inequality gave an interview in the newsweekly Die Zeit<\/i>, in which he (correctly) observes that Germany has a greater history of shirking on its debt than any other nation on the face of the earth<\/a>:<\/p>\n

DIE ZEIT<\/b>: Should we Germans be happy that even the French government is aligned with the German dogma of austerity?<\/span>

<\/span>Thomas Piketty<\/b>: Absolutely not. This is neither a reason for France, nor Germany, and especially not for Europe, to be happy. I am much more afraid that the conservatives, especially in Germany, are about to destroy Europe and the European idea, all because of their shocking ignorance of history.<\/span>

<\/span>ZEIT<\/b>: But we Germans have already reckoned with our own history.<\/span>

<\/span>Piketty<\/b>: But not when it comes to repaying debts! Germany\u2019s past, in this respect, should be of great significance to today\u2019s Germans. Look at the history of national debt: Great Britain, Germany, and France were all once in the situation of today\u2019s Greece, and in fact had been far more indebted. The first lesson that we can take from the history of government debt is that we are not facing a brand new problem. There have been many ways to repay debts, and not just one, which is what Berlin and Paris would have the Greeks believe.<\/span>

<\/span>ZEIT<\/b>: But shouldn\u2019t they repay their debts?<\/span>

<\/span>Piketty<\/b>: My book recounts the history of income and wealth, including that of nations. What struck me while I was writing is that Germany is really the single best example of a country that, throughout its history, has never repaid its external debt. Neither after the First nor the Second World War. However, it has frequently made other nations pay up, such as after the Franco-Prussian War of 1870, when it demanded massive reparations from France and indeed received them. The French state suffered for decades under this debt. The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.<\/span>

<\/span>\u2026\u2026\u2026<\/span>

<\/span>ZEIT<\/b>: Are you trying to depict states that don\u2019t pay back their debts as winners?<\/span>

<\/span>Piketty<\/b>: Germany is just such a state. But wait: history shows us two ways for an indebted state to leave delinquency. One was demonstrated by the British Empire in the 19th century after its expensive wars with Napoleon. It is the slow method that is now being recommended to Greece. The Empire repaid its debts through strict budgetary discipline. This worked, but it took an extremely long time. For over 100 years, the British gave up two to three percent of their economy to repay its debts, which was more than they spent on schools and education. That didn\u2019t have to happen, and it shouldn\u2019t happen today. The second method is much faster. Germany proved it in the 20th century. Essentially, it consists of three components: inflation, a special tax on private wealth, and debt relief.<\/span>

<\/span>ZEIT<\/b>: So you\u2019re telling us that the German Wirtschaftswunder [\u201ceconomic miracle\u201d] was based on the same kind of debt relief that we deny Greece today?<\/span>

<\/span>Piketty<\/b>: Exactly. After the war ended in 1945, Germany\u2019s debt amounted to over 200% of its GDP. Ten years later, little of that remained: public debt was less than 20% of GDP. Around the same time, France managed a similarly artful turnaround. We never would have managed this unbelievably fast reduction in debt through the fiscal discipline that we today recommend to Greece. Instead, both of our states employed the second method with the three components that I mentioned, including debt relief. Think about the London Debt Agreement of 1953, where 60% of German foreign debt was cancelled and its internal debts were restructured.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

As I’ve noted before, the Germans think themselves special, and as bad as American exceptionalism has been, the consequences of German chauvanism over the past 150 years has been uniquely horrific.<\/p>\n

It does not help that pretty much everyone in German politics but the Die Linke<\/a> (The Left) are n***er baiting the Greeks in a way that would impress Bull Connor.<\/p>\n

I am inclined to believe that we are seeing the collapse of the Euro Zone, and possibly the EU. <\/p>\n

H\/t Gavin Schalliol<\/a>, who did the original translation, and then was forced to pull it over IP concerns.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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