{"id":182826,"date":"2015-05-30T18:31:00","date_gmt":"2015-05-30T23:31:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2015\/05\/30\/i-guess-obama-wants-to-ensure-that-there-is-someone-worse-with-a-nobel\/"},"modified":"2015-05-30T18:31:00","modified_gmt":"2015-05-30T23:31:00","slug":"i-guess-obama-wants-to-ensure-that-there-is-someone-worse-with-a-nobel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2015\/05\/30\/i-guess-obama-wants-to-ensure-that-there-is-someone-worse-with-a-nobel\/","title":{"rendered":"I Guess Obama Wants to Ensure That There Is Someone Worse with a Nobel"},"content":{"rendered":"

<\/a>We now have evidence that the US State Department is pressuring the Nobel Prize committee to nominate Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko for the Peace Prize<\/a>:<\/p>\n

A leaked letter dated May 19th and sent by the Chairman of Ukraine\u2019s parliament, Vladimir Groysman, to the charg\u00e9 d\u2019affaires of the U.S. Embassy in Oslo Norway, thanks her for \u201cthe efforts you have made to have Petro Oleksiyovych Poroshenko nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize,\u201d but continues: \u201cStill we consider your assurances of support by the two members of the Nobel Committee as insufficient,\u201d because there are five members of the Committee, and the support of 3 of them is necessary.<\/p>\n

Thus, \u201cWe expect further efforts aimed at shifting the position of Berit Reiss-Andersen, Inger-Marie Ytterhorn and especially that of the Chair of the Nobel Committee Kaci Kullman Five. Regarding the latter, we recommend that you take advantage of the information you are going to receive from Germany. Your colleagues in Berlin have assured us that the dossier will soon be delivered to the U.S. Embassy in Oslo. It is of utmost importance for Mr. Poroshenko to have firm guarantees that he will be awarded the 2015 Nobel Peace Prize, since it could highlight the unanimous support of Ukrainian integrity by the democratic community of the world. Assistant Secretary of State Viktoria Nuland has highly estimated your job during her visit to Kyiv.\u201d<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Once again, like a bad penny, every time there is a harebrained neocon scheme at State, Victoria Nuland is at the heart of the skulduggery.<\/p>\n

The three mentioned Nobel Peace Prize Committee members are a politcally varied group. Ms. Reiss-Andersen is from the social democratic or \u201cLabour\u201d party; Ms. Ytterhorn is from the libertarian or \u201cProgress\u201d party; and Ms. Five is from the Conservative Party. The two unidentified members are Thorbj\u00f8rn Jagland from the Labour Party, and Henrik Syse from the Conservative Party. If this letter is correct, those are the two who are referred to by the letter\u2019s phrase, \u201cyour assurances of support by the two members.\u201d<\/span>

<\/span> The letter also makes a vague reference to the poor reputation that the Committee has engendered on account of the Committee\u2019s having granted the Prize to Barack Obama in 2009<\/span><\/b> (a decision that the Committee\u2019s Chairperson, Ms. Five, concurred with and has been criticized for): \u201cWe understand the difficulties you face when promoting the candidacy of the President of Ukraine, therefore we ask you to exert additional leverages by engaging those U.S. Senators who effectively cooperated with the Committee in 2009.\u201d Presumably, this means that whomever \u201cthose U.S. Senators\u201d were, the Chairman of Ukraine\u2019s parliament thinks that they were \u201ceffective.\u201d<\/span>

<\/span> President Poroshenko entered office on 25 May 2014 after a U.S.-sponsored coup in Kiev that installed Arseniy Yatsenyuk as Ukraine\u2019s Prime Minister on 26 February 2014, after the U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for European and Asian Affairs, Victoria Nuland, had instructed the U.S. Ambassador in Kiev on 4 February 2014<\/a> to get \u201cYats\u201d appointed as the junta\u2019s leader; she issued that instruction to him by phone on February 4th and the coup occurred on February 22nd<\/a>; Yatsenyuk was then appointed on February 26th, and he remains in power today. One pro-Russian part of Ukraine, Crimea, then seceded and joined Russia<\/a>, and another, Donbass, seceded and was not accepted by Russia; it thus was bombed by the Ukrainian Government during May through December 2014, since Donbass\u2019s repeated requests to be allowed to join Russia were spurned by Vladimir Putin<\/a>. (Yet, Ukraine accuses Russia of providing the fighters who are actually the men of Donbass, who refuse to be ruled by the U.S.-coup regime. Russia sends them guns, and volunteers have come from Russia and many other countries to help the Donbass defenders.) German intelligence estimates that \u201cup to 50,000\u201d<\/a> people were killed in that bombing campaign, but U.S. and other official estimates are only around 5,000.<\/span>

<\/span> Even before Poroshenko took office, the new Ukrainian government of \u201cYats\u201d Yatsenyuk invaded Donbass, using bombers, tanks, rocket-launchers, and everything it had<\/a>; and, when Poroshenko gave his victory speech in the ceremonial Presidential election on May 25th, he promised<\/a>, and it was very clear from him, that: \u201cThe anti-terrorist operation [he called the residents there \u2019terrorists\u2019] cannot and should not last two or three months. It should and will last hours.\u201d<\/a> (Another translation of it was \u201cAntiterrorist operation can not and will not continue for 2-3 months. It must and will last hours.\u201d<\/a>) But it did last months \u2014 Poroshenko\u2019s prediction was certainly false; and, moreover, he lost first one round of the war, and then another \u2014 his prediction of its outcome was likewise false. And recently, he said that the war must be resumed for yet a third round, in order that Ukraine win back both Crimea and Donbass. However, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry warned him on May 12th that he must not do that, and that if he did he\u2019d be violating the Minsk II ceasefire accords which had been arranged by France\u2019s Francois Hollande and Germany\u2019s Angela Merkel. Then, three days later, his Assistant Secretary Victoria Nuland, who had arranged the February 2014 coup, told both Yatsenyuk and Poroshenko to ignore what Kerry had just said<\/a>, and that, \u201cWe continue to stand shoulder to shoulder with the people of Ukraine and reiterate our deep commitment to a single Ukrainian nation, including Crimea, and all the other regions of Ukraine.\u201d<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

(emphasis mine<\/i>)<\/p>\n

The important thing is not that this is absurd, nor is it why Victoria Nuland has a job at the State Department and a security clearance.<\/p>\n

The important thing here is that this is a graphic example of just how f%$#ed up and failed our policy in the Ukraine has proved to be.<\/p>\n

We went for a color revolution by funding and supporting Ukrainian Fascists (not hyperbole, the Pravyi Sektor party and its associated paramilitaries are Fascists who idolize Nazi collaborators) for no particular reason, and Russia reacted to what it saw as an existential threat, because it was<\/b> an existential threat, and we have slavering war mongers in Kiev, and a civil war in which the Russian aligned rebels are winning.<\/p>\n

Heck of a job, Brownie<\/strike> Victoria Nuland.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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