{"id":182924,"date":"2015-05-04T19:19:00","date_gmt":"2015-05-05T00:19:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2015\/05\/04\/sorry-to-harsh-your-warp-drive-buzz\/"},"modified":"2015-05-04T19:19:00","modified_gmt":"2015-05-05T00:19:00","slug":"sorry-to-harsh-your-warp-drive-buzz","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2015\/05\/04\/sorry-to-harsh-your-warp-drive-buzz\/","title":{"rendered":"Sorry to Harsh Your Warp Drive Buzz \u2026\u2026\u2026*"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/i.imgur.com\/4AYZ7Cs.jpg\" rel=\"lytebox\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/i.imgur.com\/4AYZ7Cs.jpg\" style=\"cursor: pointer; float: right; margin: 0px 0px 10px 10px;\" width=\"200\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/ethansiegel\/2015\/05\/04\/no-nasa-did-not-accidentally-invent-warp-drive\/\">The reports of the EM Drive appear to be greatly exaggerated<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: blue;\">\u2026\u2026\u2026<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">Perhaps we should take a long cool drink at this point. Let\u2019s start with  the \u201cNASA validates\u201d part. NASA is a huge agency, with more than 18,000  employees. The testing was done by five NASA employees in a lab devoted  to exploring unorthodox propulsion ideas. The team leader is a  researcher named Harold \u201cSonny\u201d <a href=\"http:\/\/www.icarusinterstellar.org\/team\/harold-white\/\">White<\/a>,  himself a proponent of ideas about faster-than-light warp drives that  most of his colleagues have classified as physically impossible. The  lead author is one of White\u2019s Eagleworks teammates, David A. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/pub\/david-brady\/8\/478\/41a\">Brady<\/a>. Calling this group \u201cNASA\u201d\u2014as almost every popular news story has done\u2014is a gross oversimplification.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\">till, science is science: What matters are data, not motivations or  semantics. Did White et al actually validate Fetta\u2019s version of the  EmDrive? The abstract of their <a href=\"http:\/\/ntrs.nasa.gov\/search.jsp?R=20140006052\">paper<\/a>,  which was presented at a propulsion conference in Cleveland, is freely  available online. Reading it raises a number of red flags. The  methodology description makes it unclear how much of the testing took  place in a vacuum\u2014essential for measuring a subtle thrust effect. The  total amount of energy consumed seems to have been far more than the  amount of measured thrust, meaning there was plenty of extra energy  bouncing around that could have been a source of error. <\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">Worst of all is this statement from the paper: \u201cThrust was observed  on both test articles, even though one of the test articles was designed  with the expectation that it would not produce thrust.\u201d In other words,  the Cannae Drive worked when it was set up correctly\u2014but it worked just  as well when it was intentionally <\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><del>disabled<\/del><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">set up incorrectly. Somehow the NASA researchers report this as a validation, rather than invalidation, of the device.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">Did I say that was worst of all? I may have&nbsp; take that back. In the  paper by White et al, they also write that the Cannae Drive \u201cis  producing a force that is not attributable to any classical  electromagnetic phenomenon and therefore is potentially demonstrating an  interaction with the quantum vacuum virtual plasma.\u201d That last bit  stopped me. What\u2019s a quantum vacuum virtual plasma? I\u2019d never heard the  term, so I dropped a note to <a href=\"http:\/\/preposterousuniverse.com\/\">Sean Carroll<\/a>, a Caltech physicist whose work dives deeply into speculative realms of cosmology and quantum theory.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">Carroll wrote back immediately, with a pointed message: \u201cThere is no  such thing as a \u2018quantum vacuum virtual plasma,\u2019 so that should be a  tip-off right there. There is a quantum vacuum, but it is nothing like a  plasma. In particular, it does not have a rest frame, so there is  nothing to push against, so you can\u2019t use it for propulsion. The whole  thing is just nonsense. They claim to measure an incredibly tiny effect  that could very easily be just noise.\u201d There is no theory to support the  result, and there is no verified result to begin with.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">\u2026\u2026\u2026<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">That\u2019s part of why this space-drive story bothers me so much. Abandoning  known science when it feels good to do so is a dangerous proposition.  As Carroll later tweeted, \u201cThe eagerness with which folks embrace  sketchy claims about impossible space drives would make astrology fans  blush.\u201d I am personally a huge space enthusiast; I would love to see a  new type of propulsion that would make it easier to explore the  universe. But having your heart in the right place is no excuse to walk  away from normal critical thinking. <b><span style=\"font-size: 100%; font-variant: small-caps;\">It is not materially different than  the approach of people who reject science when they don\u2019t like what it  says about climate change, vaccines, or genetically modified organisms<\/span><\/b>. <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>(<i>Emphasis Mine<\/i>)<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s be clear here:&nbsp; The tests are dubious, the detected &#8220;thrust&#8221; being, &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/ethansiegel\/2015\/05\/04\/no-nasa-did-not-accidentally-invent-warp-drive\/\">Between 30-and-50 microNewtons, where the limit of the measuring device is 10-to-15 microNewtons<\/a>,&#8221; which makes the setup vulnerable to subtle errors and confirmation bias.<\/p>\n<p>I am not saying that it&#8217;s true, but I am saying that we don&#8217;t have even the vaguest model to describe this phenomenon, and the scientific method requires skepticism, and this sounds like the Pons and&nbsp; Fleischmann cold fusion fiasco of the late 1980s.<\/p>\n<p>There needs to be a lot more testing, and some theories that could actually reliably predict the results, before we should start buying Star Trek uniforms.<sup>\u2020<\/sup><\/p>\n<p><sup>*<\/sup><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\">Actually, I do want to harsh your buzz.  Seriously.  This appears to be complete bullsh%$, or at least irresponsibly immature, and I can feel virtuous by shooting it down.<\/span><br \/><sup>\u2020<\/sup><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\">On my part, I will <b><span style=\"font-size: 100%; font-variant: small-caps;\">not<\/span><\/b> be buying a Star Trek uniform.  As an engineer, I would be wearing a red shirt.  I do <b><span style=\"font-size: 100%; font-variant: small-caps;\">not<\/span><\/b> like those odds.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The reports of the EM Drive appear to be greatly exaggerated: \u2026\u2026\u2026 Perhaps we should take a long cool drink at this point. Let\u2019s start with the \u201cNASA validates\u201d part. NASA is a huge agency, with more than 18,000 employees. The testing was done by five NASA employees in a lab devoted to exploring unorthodox &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1129,1204,1128,1069,1037],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-182924","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-journalism","category-junk-science","category-propulsion","category-science","category-space"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/182924"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=182924"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/182924\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=182924"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=182924"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=182924"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}