{"id":183164,"date":"2015-02-10T21:32:00","date_gmt":"2015-02-11T02:32:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2015\/02\/10\/muck-fyhrvold\/"},"modified":"2015-02-10T21:32:00","modified_gmt":"2015-02-11T02:32:00","slug":"muck-fyhrvold","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2015\/02\/10\/muck-fyhrvold\/","title":{"rendered":"Muck Fyhrvold"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Intellectual Ventures, the patent troll founded Nathan Myhrvold, has won its first patent suit, but it appears to be a Pyrrhic victory, with <a href=\"http:\/\/arstechnica.com\/tech-policy\/2015\/02\/symantec-must-pay-17-million-to-worlds-biggest-patent-troll\/\">a small award, and a denial of ongoing royalty payments<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: blue;\">More than four years after it launched its first waves of lawsuits, the world&#8217;s biggest &#8220;patent troll&#8221; has won its first victory in a jury trial.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">Late Friday, a Delaware jury ordered Symantec to pay $17 million to Intellectual Ventures, the Washington-based &#8220;invention marketplace&#8221; created by ex-Microsoft CTO Nathan Myhrvold, which boasts more than 30,000 patent assets.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">In its verdict [PDF], the jury found that Symantec had infringed two US patents, numbered 5,987,610 and 6,073,142. A third patent, 6,460,050, was found to be not infringed.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">The complaint [PDF], filed in 2010, accuses Symantec&#8217;s Brightmail Gateway and Web Gateway of infringing the &#8216;142 patent. That patent was filed in 1997 by Utah&#8217;s Park City Group and essentially describes a system for distributing e-mail according to a set of predetermined &#8220;business rules.&#8221;<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">The &#8216;610 patent originated with Ameritech, later bought by AT&amp;T. The &#8216;050 patent was filed in 1999 by two columnists for computer magazine InfoWorld, Brooks Talley and Mark Pace.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">While jurors sided with Intellectual Ventures, they awarded the patent holder less than six percent of the $299 million its lawyers sought, according to a Symantec spokesperson. The verdict form indicates the company was also asking for ongoing royalty payments, which the jury rejected.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">&#8220;We are pleased the verdict came back for substantially less than the amount that Intellectual Ventures was seeking, and are considering our options to reduce the damages even further,&#8221; the spokesperson said via e-mail.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">In a statement, IV expressed gratitude to the jury for upholding the patents&#8217; validity. &#8220;We remain committed to defending inventor rights and protecting the interests of our investors and customers,&#8221; said IV&#8217;s head of litigation, Melissa Finocchio.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Admittedly, it <b>was<\/b> Symantec that won, and I <b>really<\/b> hate their software, I always felt that their Norton AV was worse than the viruses that it was protecting against, but this is clearly a victory, albeit not a complete one, against the patent trolls. <\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, on appeal, it goes to the Patent Court (the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Federal_Circuit\">United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit<\/a>) who would slap a patent on a rainy day, (in fact that court literally <a href=\"http:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/docket\/2010\/06\/28\/the-supreme-court-keeps-business-method-patents-alive\/\">did allow for a patent on a rainy day<\/a>) and my guess would be that they would not be a friendly venue for Symantec.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Intellectual Ventures, the patent troll founded Nathan Myhrvold, has won its first patent suit, but it appears to be a Pyrrhic victory, with a small award, and a denial of ongoing royalty payments: More than four years after it launched its first waves of lawsuits, the world&#8217;s biggest &#8220;patent troll&#8221; has won its first victory &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1109,972,1191,989],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-183164","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ip","category-justice","category-patent","category-software"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/183164"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=183164"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/183164\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=183164"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=183164"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=183164"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}