{"id":185580,"date":"2014-10-06T22:15:00","date_gmt":"2014-10-07T03:15:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2014\/10\/06\/joe-biden-speaks-the-truth\/"},"modified":"2014-10-06T22:15:00","modified_gmt":"2014-10-07T03:15:00","slug":"joe-biden-speaks-the-truth","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2014\/10\/06\/joe-biden-speaks-the-truth\/","title":{"rendered":"Joe Biden Speaks the Truth"},"content":{"rendered":"

So of course, he had to apologize for it<\/a>:<\/p>\n

A diplomatic rift between Turkey and the United States was patched over late Saturday after the American vice president, Joseph R. Biden Jr., officially apologized to Turkey\u2019s president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, for remarks suggesting that Turkey helped facilitate the rise of the Islamic State terrorist group.<\/span>

<\/span>In remarks at Harvard University on Thursday, Mr. Biden said Mr. Erdogan had admitted erring in allowing foreign fighters to cross Turkey\u2019s border into Syria, eventually leading to the formation of the group, also known as ISIS and ISIL.<\/span>

<\/span>Mr. Biden\u2019s spokeswoman, Kendra Barkoff, said in an emailed statement that the two leaders spoke by phone on Saturday. \u201cThe vice president apologized for any implication that Turkey or other allies and partners in the region had intentionally supplied or facilitated the growth of ISIL or other violent extremists in Syria,\u201d Ms. Barkoff said. \u201cThe United States greatly values the commitments and sacrifices made by our allies and partners from around the world to combat the scourge of ISIL, including Turkey.\u201d<\/span>

<\/span>\u2026\u2026\u2026<\/span>

<\/span>Mr. Erdogan, despite widespread evidence to the contrary, denied that Turkey\u2019s long, porous border had enabled thousands of militants to cross onto the Syrian and Iraqi battlefields since the Syrian civil war began in 2011. \u201cForeign fighters never crossed into Syria from our country,\u201d Mr. Erdogan said. \u201cThey would cross into Syria from Turkey on tourist passports, but nobody can claim that they have crossed with arms.\u201d<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Seriously? How f%$#ing stupid do we think we are?<\/p>\n

BTW, this is what Biden said:<\/p>\n

Speaking at the John F. Kennedy School of Government, Mr. Biden said allies including Turkey, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates had extended unconditional financial and logistical support to Sunni fighters trying to oust the Syrian government of President Bashar al-Assad.<\/span>

<\/span>\u201cPresident Erdogan told me,\u201d he said, according to the Turkish newspaper Hurriyet, \u201c \u2018You were right. We let too many people through. Now we are trying to seal the border.\u2019<\/span>

<\/span>\u201cOur allies poured hundreds of millions of dollars and tens of thousands of tons of weapons into anyone who would fight against al-Assad,\u201d he said, including jihadists planning to join the Nusra Front and Al Qaeda.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I think that the appropriate response to Erdogan’s hissy fit is to tell him to go pound sand, which is why I would make a lousy diplomat.<\/p>\n

He, and rest of the Sunni hegemonists were hip deep in supporting Al Qaedal linked militants, and Saudi Arabia directly supported what would become ISIS in their bid to overthrow the Assad regime.<\/p>\n

The fact that this is not a part of the dialog about the US intervention in Iraq and Syria is a sign of just how completely the House of Saud owns our foreign policy apparatus.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

So of course, he had to apologize for it: A diplomatic rift between Turkey and the United States was patched over late Saturday after the American vice president, Joseph R. Biden Jr., officially apologized to Turkey\u2019s president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, for remarks suggesting that Turkey helped facilitate the rise of the Islamic State terrorist group.In …<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[967,970,964,1031,1051,986,978,1021,1098],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-185580","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bigotry","category-corruption","category-foreign-relations","category-house-of-saud","category-hypocrisy","category-middle-east","category-politics","category-religion","category-war"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/185580"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=185580"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/185580\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=185580"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=185580"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=185580"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}