{"id":185873,"date":"2014-07-28T20:20:00","date_gmt":"2014-07-29T01:20:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2014\/07\/28\/a-couple-of-interesting-perspectives-on-the-war-in-gaza\/"},"modified":"2014-07-28T20:20:00","modified_gmt":"2014-07-29T01:20:00","slug":"a-couple-of-interesting-perspectives-on-the-war-in-gaza","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2014\/07\/28\/a-couple-of-interesting-perspectives-on-the-war-in-gaza\/","title":{"rendered":"A Couple of Interesting Perspectives on the War in Gaza"},"content":{"rendered":"

First comes the Yorkshire Ranter, who looks at the conflict, and draws some conclusions and their effects<\/a>.<\/p>\n

First is the explanation of why Hamas is using such an ineffective weapon system in their rockets, which cause damage only by happenstance.<\/p>\n

The Ranter (IMNSHO correctly) explains that the rocket fire is suppressive fire, not firing for effect:<\/p>\n

You could imagine that this is the physical expression of a sort of generalised venting of rage \u2013 randomly tossing ineffective bangs over the wall. But you\u2019d be wrong both in the sense that it trivialises the rocketry\u2019s effect on Israelis, and that it denies Palestinians\u2019 agency and competence.<\/span>

<\/span> It\u2019s too easy to point to the fact that they very, very rarely kill anyone and argue that in fact they are a bit puny and the Israelis should just man up and show some stiff upper lip rather than calling in artillery on the nearest school for the disabled. I have myself given in to the temptation before. The point isn\u2019t destruction<\/i> so much as suppression<\/i>, the effect created by the fact of being under fire. And what they want to suppress is essentially the Israeli economy.<\/span>

<\/span> Remember that GDP is a flow concept \u2013 loaves out of a bakery, cars off a production line \u2013 not a stock concept like Scrooge McDuck\u2019s treasure. Israeli GDP in 2013 was $286.8bn at purchasing power parity. We can usefully think of this as $32.6 million GDP per hour. While an air warning RED is in force, it is a good guess that economic activity is basically zero. Not quite, of course, the electricity is on, the phone network is up, and the government sector is more than busy. But as a rule, if you\u2019re in an air raid shelter you\u2019re not at work or doing much else than worrying. The Iron Dome close-in weapons system is a major commitment of complicated technology, a diversion of social resources, so the cost of air defence has to be offset against that. And the warning system, which MIT\u2019s Ted Postol<\/a> credits with protecting the population much more than Iron Dome, does so at the cost of putting more people under warning for longer.<\/span>

<\/span> So, you can see why they would go for range first. During this wave of conflict, the percentage of Israeli territory under warning has been as high as 75%, or $24.6m of foregone GDP per hour. A tiny commitment of additional materials per rocket provides a much bigger effect. Also, range requires \u201cbigger\u201d but not \u201cbetter\u201d, at least until the structural integrity constraints of the rocket are reached. A rocket is a container of propellant, so increasing its volume doesn\u2019t require a proportionately greater quantity of materials. Another important reason to go bigger first is that it makes it possible to launch from anywhere in the Gaza Strip<\/a>.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

It should be noted in war, much of the weapons firing is suppressive fire, and as a suppressive weapon, the rockets are very effective, particularly since they are so cheap.<\/p>\n

Rather than being an incoherent expression of rage, it is actually a relatively sophisticated, and rather effective, tactic.<\/p>\n

His second, and far more troubling observation has to do with the rather non controversial conclusion that conflict and violence has the effect of radicalizing both societies.<\/p>\n

My concern primarily has to do with the effect on Israeli society:<\/p>\n

Here\u2019s the point on the Israeli side. Palestinian rocket range and the vote for the Israeli extreme-right<\/a> are strongly correlated; each ward to come under threat reports an increase of between 2 and 6 percentage points in the extreme-right vote (being the 95% confidence intervals).  <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Something that has occurred during this conflict, which I have not observed before, is the hightened level of violence by Israeli Jews against Israeli Arab violence, including the lynching of Mohammed Abu Khdeir<\/a> (burnt alive) simply for being Arab.<\/p>\n

There is an element in Palestinian society that believes that they can eventually make the Israelis break, and I fear than they can eventually make the Israelis snap, and they go the route of Slobodan Milo\u0161evi\u0107.<\/p>\n

This worry leads directly to a commentary by noted Atheist Sam Harris, who maintains that Israel has the moral high ground in this conflict<\/a>, even while he objects both to a religious based state, and religion in general, as an absurdity.<\/p>\n

Basically, he engages in a thought experiment, where he tries to imagine what each side would do should they have the such overwhelming power that there would be no limits to their actions, and then<\/b> he realizes that Israel is already in this position:<\/p>\n

The truth is that there is an obvious, undeniable, and hugely consequential moral difference between Israel and her enemies. The Israelis are surrounded by people who have explicitly genocidal intentions towards them. The charter of Hamas<\/a> is explicitly genocidal. It looks forward to a time, based on Koranic prophesy, when the earth itself will cry out for Jewish blood, where the trees and the stones will say \u201cO Muslim, there\u2019s a Jew hiding behind me. Come and kill him.\u201d This is a political document. We are talking about a government that was voted into power by a majority of the Palestinians. [Note:<\/strong> Yes, I know that not every Palestinian supports Hamas, but enough do to have brought them to power. Hamas is not a fringe group.]<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

<\/span>The discourse in the Muslim world about Jews is utterly shocking. Not only is there Holocaust denial\u2014there\u2019s Holocaust denial that then asserts that we will do it for real if given the chance. The only thing more obnoxious than denying the Holocaust is to say that it should<\/i> have happened; it didn\u2019t happen, but if we get the chance, we will accomplish it. There are children\u2019s shows that teach five-year-olds about the glories of martyrdom and about the necessity of killing Jews. <\/span><\/p>\n

<\/span>And this gets to the heart of the moral difference between Israel and her enemies. And this is something I discussed in The End of Faith.<\/i> To see this moral difference, you have to ask what each side would do if they had the power to do it. <\/span><\/p>\n

<\/span>What would the Jews do to the Palestinians if they could do anything they wanted? Well, we know the answer to that question, because they can do more or less anything they want. The Israeli army could kill everyone in Gaza tomorrow. So what does that mean? Well, it means that, when they drop a bomb on a beach and kill four Palestinian children, as happened last week, this is almost certainly an accident. They\u2019re not targeting children. They could target as many children as they want. Every time a Palestinian child dies, Israel edges ever closer to becoming an international pariah. So the Israelis take great pains not to kill children and other noncombatants.  [Note:<\/strong> The word \u201cso\u201d in the previous sentence was regrettable and misleading. I didn\u2019t mean to suggest that safeguarding its reputation abroad would be the only (or even primary) reason for Israel to avoid killing children. However, the point stands: Even if you want to attribute the basest motives to Israel, it is clearly in her self-interest not<\/em> to kill Palestinian children.]<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Now, is it possible that some Israeli soldiers go berserk under pressure and wind up shooting into crowds of rock-throwing children? Of course. You will always find some soldiers acting this way in the middle of a war. But we know that this isn\u2019t the general intent of Israel. We know the Israelis do not want to kill non-combatants, because they could kill as many as they want, and they\u2019re not doing it. <\/span><\/p>\n

<\/span>What do we know of the Palestinians? What would the Palestinians do to the Jews in Israel if the power imbalance were reversed? Well, they have told us what they would do. For some reason, Israel\u2019s critics just don\u2019t want to believe the worst about a group like Hamas, even when it declares the worst of itself. We\u2019ve already had a Holocaust and several other genocides in the 20th century. People are capable of committing genocide. When they tell us they intend to commit genocide, we should listen. There is every reason to believe that the Palestinians would kill all the Jews in Israel if they could. Would every Palestinian support genocide? Of course not. But vast numbers of them\u2014and of Muslims throughout the world\u2014would. Needless to say, the Palestinians in general, not just Hamas, have a history of targeting innocent noncombatants in the most shocking ways possible. They\u2019ve blown themselves up on buses and in restaurants. They\u2019ve massacred teenagers. They\u2019ve murdered Olympic athletes. They now shoot rockets indiscriminately into civilian areas. And again, the charter<\/a> of their government in Gaza explicitly tells us that they want to annihilate the Jews\u2014not just in Israel but everywhere. [Note:<\/strong> Again, I realize that not all Palestinians support Hamas. Nor am I discounting the degree to which the occupation, along with collateral damage suffered in war, has fueled Palestinian rage. But Palestinian terrorism (and Muslim anti-Semitism) is what has made peaceful coexistence thus far impossible.]<\/strong><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

This from a guy who, “I don\u2019t think Israel should exist as a Jewish state. I think it is obscene, irrational and unjustifiable to have a state organized around a religion.”<\/p>\n

I do differ with Mr. Harris a bit.<\/p>\n

Specifically,. I do not think that it is self evident that the Palestinian leadership sees a Middle East without Jews as their perfect outcome.  Populist movements frequently having its leaders paying lip service to ideologies as a matter of convenience. (See Nelson Mandela and his affiliation with the South African Communist Party, and compare it to his behavior when he actually became President of South Africa)<\/p>\n

So, the future proclivities of a Palestinian state are to my mind far more unknown than Sam Harris, though I am not hugely optimistic:  I believe that under the current environment, the chance that any Palestinian peace maker would suffer the same fate as Michael Collins is pretty high.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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