{"id":186005,"date":"2014-06-16T20:45:00","date_gmt":"2014-06-17T01:45:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2014\/06\/16\/because-snoops-think-that-it-is-all-about-them\/"},"modified":"2014-06-16T20:45:00","modified_gmt":"2014-06-17T01:45:00","slug":"because-snoops-think-that-it-is-all-about-them","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2014\/06\/16\/because-snoops-think-that-it-is-all-about-them\/","title":{"rendered":"Because, Snoops Think that it Is All About Them"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It now appears that one impetus for the US state security apparatus to spy on all of us was <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonsblog.com\/2014\/06\/senior-nsa-manager-agency-started-spying-reporters-wait-make-sure-didnt-report-nsas-mass-surveillance.html\">to cover its own ass<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: blue;\">You may have heard about the government\u2019s spying on the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonsblog.com\/2013\/05\/the-bigger-story-behind-the-ap-spying-scandal.html\" title=\"Associated Press\">Associated Press<\/a>.  And high-level NSA whistleblower Bill Binney told Washington\u2019s Blog that the government <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonsblog.com\/2014\/05\/nsa-spying-power.html\" title=\"also spied\">also spied<\/a> on Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times reporter <a href=\"http:\/\/www.latimes.com\/nation\/nationnow\/la-na-nn-supreme-court-reporters-sources-20140530-story.html\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"James Risen\" rel=\"noopener\">James Risen<\/a>, and chief Fox News Washington correspondent <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2013\/05\/20\/james-rosen-justice-department-co-conspirator-obama_n_3305857.html\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"James Rosen\" rel=\"noopener\">James Rosen<\/a>.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">But <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonsblog.com\/2014\/06\/washingtons-blog-interviews-senior-nsa-executive-thomas-drake.html\" title=\"Senior NSA executive Thomas Drake\">Senior NSA executive Thomas Drake<\/a> tells Washington\u2019s Blog that the spying on reporters started <i>12 years<\/i> ago \u2013 in 2002 \u2013 and has been fairly systematic.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">By way of background, Drake had championed the \u201cThinThread\u201d program, which <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonsblog.com\/2013\/12\/want-rein-nsa-spying-heres.html\" title=\"automatically encrypted Americans\u2019 data\">automatically encrypted Americans\u2019 data<\/a> (data could only be decrypted after a court found there was probable cause that the American was a bad guy).<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\">But after 9\/11, NSA instead adopted the competing \u201cStellar Wind\u201d system, which <i>didn\u2019t<\/i> protect Americans\u2019 privacy, and was less effective and more expensive.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">\u2026\u2026\u2026<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span><span style=\"color: blue;\">There was a program called \u201cFirst Fruits\u201d.  They\u2019ve no doubt changed the name of the program [since then.]<\/span><\/p>\n<p> <span style=\"color: blue;\">And that First Fruits program was a <em>cutout<\/em> which was  designed from all of the domestic surveillance take.   \u201cLet\u2019s just pipe  off from all\u201d that is involving designated [reporters] \u2026 or in some  cases <em>whole groups of reporters and journalists<\/em>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: blue;\">&nbsp;So you\u2019re targeting actual newspapers. You\u2019re targeting media outlets.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: blue;\">And you\u2019re monitoring \u2013 on a <em>persistent basis<\/em> \u2013 their communications.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: blue;\"><em><strong>WASHINGTON\u2019S BLOG:<\/strong><\/em>  How early did that start?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: blue;\"><em><strong>THOMAS DRAKE:<\/strong><\/em>  The preliminary version of that \u2013 as far as an active program \u2013 was in <strong>2002<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>(<i>emphasis original<\/i>)<\/p>\n<p>When secrecy is used as a weapon to cover up ones own misdeeds, not only does it breed more secrecy, it breeds more misdeeds.<\/p>\n<p>Our secret security state is not protecting us.&nbsp; It is petri dish for incompetence.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It now appears that one impetus for the US state security apparatus to spy on all of us was to cover its own ass: You may have heard about the government\u2019s spying on the Associated Press. And high-level NSA whistleblower Bill Binney told Washington\u2019s Blog that the government also spied on Pulitzer Prize-winning New York &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1062,969,1129,1103,982],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-186005","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-espionage","category-evil","category-journalism","category-secrecy","category-stupid"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/186005"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=186005"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/186005\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=186005"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=186005"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=186005"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}