{"id":186159,"date":"2014-04-21T17:10:00","date_gmt":"2014-04-21T22:10:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2014\/04\/21\/i-can-do-this-pissing-in-a-bucket-of-bleach\/"},"modified":"2014-04-21T17:10:00","modified_gmt":"2014-04-21T22:10:00","slug":"i-can-do-this-pissing-in-a-bucket-of-bleach","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2014\/04\/21\/i-can-do-this-pissing-in-a-bucket-of-bleach\/","title":{"rendered":"I Can Do This Pissing in a Bucket of Bleach\u2026\u2026\u2026"},"content":{"rendered":"

After screwing it up by using Fascists to stage an at best marginally effective coup in the Ukraine, it looks like the Obama administration is
trying to use new dodgy allegations of chemical weapons use to try to create support for US action<\/a>:<\/p>\n

The United States has indications of the use of a toxic chemical, probably chlorine, in Syria this month and is examining indications that the Syrian government was responsible, the US State Department said on Monday.<\/span>

<\/span> “We have indications of the use of a toxic industrial chemical” in the town of Kfar Zeita, State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said.<\/span>

<\/span> “We are examining allegations that the government was responsible,” she told reporters. <\/span>

<\/span> Earlier this month the Syrian regime and opposition forces accused each other of carrying out a chemical attack in Kfar Zeita, located in the embattled country\u2019s western-central province of Hama.<\/span>

<\/span> Opposition activists reported that dozens of residents suffered from symptoms of suffocation after air units loyal to Syrian President Bashar Assad targeted the town with explosive barrels allegedly containing toxic material.<\/span>

<\/span> Yesterday, French President Francois Hollande said that his country had “information” that the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad has continued using chemical weapons, although Paris lacked proof, AFP reported.<\/span>

<\/span> “We have a few elements of information but I do not have the proof,” AFP quoted Hollande as telling the Europe 1 radio station.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

And yes, you can create chlorine gas by peeing in a bucket of bleach.<\/p>\n

Unlike the (blatantly false) allegations that the Syrian insurgents lacked the capabilities to make Sarin, making chlorine gas is pretty simple: (Pee has a low yield)<\/p>\n

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  1. Run DC current through sea water.<\/li>\n
  2. Collect the oxygen and chlorine off of the anode.  (This is why, in chemistry class, they used something other than table salt, typically Epsom salt or lye).<\/li>\n
  3. Either cool the mixture to less than -40\u00b0, or pressurize it at room temperature to more than about 100 psi. (or some combination of the two)<\/li>\n
  4. When the chlorine condenses into a liquid, VERY<\/b> carefully collect  it, and put in munitions.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    Note that the provenance of the the Sarin is unclear, with Seymour Hersh detailing how the Obama administration chose to very suppress significant facts to in order to justify their abortive attempt to create a justification for a bombing campaign<\/a>. <\/p>\n

    Hersh’s latest, The Red Line and the Rat Line<\/a>, details how many inside and outside of the US state security apparatus are accusing Turkish Prime Minister Recep Erdo\u011fan of actively aiding the Islamist rebels in Syria develop chemical weapons capability.  (It appears that he objects both to Syria’s secular character, and wants the country to be a client state of Turkey).<\/p>\n

    Note that we have tapes of senior Turkish security officials planning an attack on Suleiman Shah Tomb<\/a>, technically Turkish soil, so as to justify direct Turkish (and possibly NATO) intervention.<\/p>\n

    Count me as tremendously dubious of the latest chemical weapons revelations.<\/p>\n

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      After screwing it up by using Fascists to stage an at best marginally effective coup in the Ukraine, it looks like the Obama administration is trying to use new dodgy allegations of chemical weapons use to try to create support for US action: The United States has indications of the use of a toxic chemical, …<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1209,981,970,964,986],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-186159","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-chemical-weapons","category-civil-war","category-corruption","category-foreign-relations","category-middle-east"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/186159"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=186159"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/186159\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=186159"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=186159"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=186159"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}