{"id":186161,"date":"2014-04-20T19:59:00","date_gmt":"2014-04-21T00:59:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2014\/04\/20\/first-you-eliminate-the-competition-then-you-refuse-to-release-price-data-for-competitive-reasons\/"},"modified":"2014-04-20T19:59:00","modified_gmt":"2014-04-21T00:59:00","slug":"first-you-eliminate-the-competition-then-you-refuse-to-release-price-data-for-competitive-reasons","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2014\/04\/20\/first-you-eliminate-the-competition-then-you-refuse-to-release-price-data-for-competitive-reasons\/","title":{"rendered":"First, You Eliminate the Competition, Then You Refuse to Release Price Data for Competitive Reasons"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I knew that the taxpayers would come to regret cancelling the alternate engine for the F-32, the F136, but I did not expect it to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.aviationweek.com\/awin\/ArticlesStory.aspx?id=\/article-xml\/AW_04_21_2014_p31-678941.xml\">happen so soon<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: blue;\">After a long battle to edge rival General Electric out of the F-35  engine market, Pratt &amp; Whitney succeeded in 2011. GE announced it  would shelve the F136 after the Pentagon refused to fund it for four  years, leaving Pratt in the coveted position of a sole-source engine  supplier for the largest international fighter program ever. <\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">Three  years later, though, Pratt states that its position with its F135  engine is so potentially competitive it cannot comply with the  customer&#8217;s request to publicly share the target contract pricing data.  At issue is Pratt&#8217;s hope for more government funding by garnering a  piece of a $1 billion next-generation fighter engine. Although proposed  by the Pentagon, this program has yet to be funded by Congress. <\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">\u201cWe  have already made significant progress in advancing this technology and  anticipate a competition will be held to develop this engine. Releasing  engine pricing and cost data on the F135 would impact our ability to  compete for this potential next-generation fighter engine program,\u201d says  Pratt spokesman Matthew Bates. <\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">Senior Pentagon officials have,  however, been urging Pratt to release at least some data in a  transparency push for the highly scrutinized F-35. Bates cites a 40%  drop in engine pricing since the first low-rate-initial-production  (LRIP) lot in 2006. But the rate of cost reduction \u201cslowed down when  [Pratt] got the monopoly,\u201d said Rear Adm. Randy Mahr, deputy program  manager of the F-35. \u201cWe are trying to get that information out . . .  But, I can&#8217;t force somebody to go ahead and report something that by law  they are not\u201d required to report. Mahr made his comments at the Sea Air  Space 2014 conference here this month. \u201cThis is a subject of legal  debate but the Department of Defense feels this information should be in  the public domain,\u201d according to one defense official who requested to  talk on background owing to the sensitivity of the issue. <\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">The  last known engine price for the F135 was cited by Air Force Lt. Gen.  Christopher Bogdan for the third lot. The F-35A\/C propulsion system cost  $14 million. The F-35B, which includes a Rolls-Royce lift-fan designed  for short takeoff and vertical landing, cost $38 million. He is  frustrated at Pratt not bringing down F135 costs as predicted. \u201cPratt is  not meeting its commitment,\u201d Bogdan says. \u201cIt is as simple as that.  Some of their business base has dried up on other programs and projects  [and] they are spreading them right where they can, and I don&#8217;t like  that.\u201d <\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">Pratt &amp; Whitney has declined numerous requests from  Aviation Week over many months to release either its pricing data or its  contractual cost targets.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I <a href=\"http:\/\/40yrs.blogspot.com\/search?q=F136&amp;max-results=20&amp;by-date=true\">predicted<\/a> that the long term budget consequences of eliminating the 2<sup>nd<\/sup> engine would be negative, and that the F-35 advocates&#8217; desire to lower front end costs would be swallowed up by the price increases resulting from creating an engine monopoly.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I knew that the taxpayers would come to regret cancelling the alternate engine for the F-32, the F136, but I did not expect it to happen so soon: After a long battle to edge rival General Electric out of the F-35 engine market, Pratt &amp; Whitney succeeded in 2011. GE announced it would shelve the &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1007,1038,970,1128],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-186161","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-aviation","category-budget","category-corruption","category-propulsion"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/186161"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=186161"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/186161\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=186161"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=186161"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=186161"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}