{"id":187143,"date":"2013-06-06T07:16:00","date_gmt":"2013-06-06T12:16:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2013\/06\/06\/yes-we-are-being-watched\/"},"modified":"2013-06-06T07:16:00","modified_gmt":"2013-06-06T12:16:00","slug":"yes-we-are-being-watched","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2013\/06\/06\/yes-we-are-being-watched\/","title":{"rendered":"Yes, We Are Being Watched"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Glenn Greenwald got a copy of a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/world\/2013\/jun\/06\/nsa-phone-records-verizon-court-order\">FISA court order requiring that Verizon turn over all phone call information for a 3 month period<\/a>.&nbsp; Members of Congress have revealed that this was in fact a renewal, and that this has been going on for 7 years.&nbsp; Senator Udall <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.denverpost.com\/thespot\/2013\/06\/06\/sen-mark-udall-i-knew-the-nsa-was-spying-did-everything-but-leak-classified-information-to-stop-it\/97025\/\">stated that he has been trying reveal that this was going on for much of that time<\/a>, but he had been stymied:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: blue;\">The National Security Agency is currently collecting the telephone records of millions of US customers of Verizon, one of America&#8217;s largest telecoms providers, under a top secret court order issued in April.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">The order, a copy of which has been obtained by the Guardian, requires Verizon on an &#8220;ongoing, daily basis&#8221; to give the NSA information on all telephone calls in its systems, both within the US and between the US and other countries.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">The document shows for the first time that under the Obama administration the communication records of millions of US citizens are being collected indiscriminately and in bulk \u2013 regardless of whether they are suspected of any wrongdoing.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">The secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (Fisa) granted the order to the FBI on April 25, giving the government unlimited authority to obtain the data for a specified three-month period ending on July 19.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And, BTW, they are also <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/world\/2013\/jun\/06\/us-tech-giants-nsa-data\">data mining all the major Internet providers<\/a>: <\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: blue;\">The National Security Agency has obtained direct access to the systems of Google, Facebook, Apple and other US internet giants, according to a top secret document obtained by the Guardian.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">The NSA access is part of a previously undisclosed program called PRISM, which allows officials to collect material including search history, the content of emails, file transfers and live chats, the document says.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">The Guardian has verified the authenticity of the document, a 41-slide PowerPoint presentation \u2013 classified as top secret with no distribution to foreign allies \u2013 which was apparently used to train intelligence operatives on the capabilities of the program. The document claims &#8220;collection directly from the servers&#8221; of major US service providers.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">Although the presentation claims the program is run with the assistance of the companies, all those who responded to a Guardian request for comment on Thursday denied knowledge of any such program.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">\u2026\u2026\u2026<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">A chart prepared by the NSA, contained within the top-secret document obtained by the Guardian, underscores the breadth of the data it is able to obtain: email, video and voice chat, videos, photos, voice-over-IP (Skype, for example) chats, file transfers, social networking details, and more.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">\u2026\u2026\u2026<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">&#8220;Fisa was broken because it provided privacy protections to people who were not entitled to them,&#8221; the presentation claimed. &#8220;It took a Fisa court order to collect on foreigners overseas who were communicating with other foreigners overseas simply because the government was collecting off a wire in the United States. There were too many email accounts to be practical to seek Fisas for all.&#8221;<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Because that whole Constitution is just <b>so<\/b> inconvenient.<\/p>\n<p>BTW, the <i>Washington Post<\/i> also published an article about the PRISM program at the same time as the <i>Guardian<\/i>, and toward the end of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/investigations\/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret-program\/2013\/06\/06\/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story.html\">their article<\/a>, they have this tidbit:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: blue;\">Firsthand experience with these systems, and horror at their capabilities, is what drove a career intelligence officer to provide PowerPoint slides about PRISM and supporting materials to The Washington Post in order to expose what he believes to be a gross intrusion on privacy. \u201cThey quite literally can watch your ideas form as you type,\u201d the officer said.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And in the world of conventional wisdom, the <i>New York Times<\/i> editorial board, has <a href=\"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/www.nytimes.com\/2013\/06\/07\/opinion\/president-obamas-dragnet.html\">unleashed a can of whup ass on the Obama administration about this<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: blue;\">Within hours of the disclosure that federal authorities routinely collect data on phone calls Americans make, regardless of whether they have any bearing on a counterterrorism investigation, the Obama administration issued the same platitude it has offered every time President Obama has been caught overreaching in the use of his powers: Terrorists are a real menace and you should just trust us to deal with them because we have internal mechanisms (that we are not going to tell you about) to make sure we do not violate your rights. <\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">Those reassurances have never been persuasive \u2014 whether on secret warrants to scoop up a news agency\u2019s phone records or secret orders to kill an American suspected of terrorism \u2014 especially coming from a president who once promised transparency and accountability.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">The administration has now lost all credibility on this issue. Mr. Obama is proving the truism that the executive branch will use any power it is given and very likely abuse it. That is one reason we have long argued that the Patriot Act, enacted in the heat of fear after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks by members of Congress who mostly had not even read it, was reckless in its assignment of unnecessary and overbroad surveillance powers. <\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">\u2026\u2026\u2026<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">On Thursday, Representative Jim Sensenbrenner, Republican of Wisconsin, who introduced the Patriot Act in 2001, said that the National Security Agency overstepped its bounds by obtaining a secret order to collect phone log records from millions of Americans.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">\u201cAs the author of the Patriot Act, I am extremely troubled by the F.B.I.\u2019s interpretation of this legislation,\u201d he said in a statement. \u201cWhile I believe the Patriot Act appropriately balanced national security concerns and civil rights, I have always worried about potential abuses.\u201d He added: \u201cSeizing phone records of millions of innocent people is excessive and un-American.\u201d<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">Stunning use of the act shows, once again, why it needs to be sharply curtailed if not repealed.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yes, I agree with what Sensenbrenner says, which is a complete mind f%$#.<\/p>\n<p>BTW, it gets worse, because it looks like <a href=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/SB10001424127887324299104578529112289298922.html\">the NSA was getting credit card data as well<\/a>: <\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: blue;\">The National Security Agency&#8217;s monitoring of Americans includes customer records from the three major phone networks as well as emails and Web searches, and the agency also has cataloged credit-card transactions, said people familiar with the agency&#8217;s activities.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"color: blue;\"><br \/><\/span> <span style=\"color: blue;\">The disclosure this week of an order by a secret U.S. court for Verizon Communications Inc.&#8217;s phone records set off the latest public discussion of the program. But people familiar with the NSA&#8217;s operations said the initiative also encompasses phone-call data from AT&amp;T Inc. and Sprint Nextel Corp. records from Internet-service providers and purchase information from credit-card providers. <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>BTW, Marcy Wheeler is spot on when she says that the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.emptywheel.net\/2013\/06\/06\/section-215-order-reveals-secrecy-only-serves-to-prevent-court-challenge\/\">only reason for all this secrecy is to prevent court challenges by making it impossible for a plaintiff to show standing<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: blue;\">The Administration wants you to believe that \u201call three branches\u201d of government have signed off on this program (never mind that last year FISC did find part of this 215 collection illegal \u2014 that\u2019s secret too).<\/p>\n<p>But our court system is set up to be an antagonistic one, with both sides represented before a judge. The government has managed to avoid such antagonistic scrutiny of its data collection and mining programs \u2014 even in the al-Haramain case, where the charity had proof they had been the target of illegal, unwarranted surveillance \u2014 by ensuring no one could ever get standing to challenge the program in court. Most recently in Clapper v. Amnesty, SCOTUS held that the plaintiffs were just speculating when they argued they had changed their habits out of the assumption that they had been wiretapped.<\/p>\n<p>This order might just provide someone standing. Any of Verizon\u2019s business customers can now prove that their call data is, as we speak, being collected and turned over to the NSA. (Though I expect lots of bogus language about the difference between \u201ccollection\u201d and \u201canalysis.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>That is what all the secrecy has been about. Undercutting separation of powers to ensure that the constitutionality of this program can never be challenged by American citizens.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s no big deal, says the Administration. But it\u2019s sufficiently big of a deal that they have to short-circuit the most basic principle of our Constitution.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Also, read <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/politics\/archive\/2013\/06\/what-we-dont-know-about-spying-on-citizens-scarier-than-what-we-know\/276607\/?google_editors_picks=true\">Bruce Schneier&#8217;s impassioned defense on whistle blowing<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>As I have noted a number of times before, Barack Obama is showing himself to be the <span style=\"font-variant: small-caps;\">Worst \u2026\u2026\u2026 Constitutional \u2026\u2026\u2026 law \u2026\u2026\u2026 professor \u2026\u2026\u2026 ever<\/span>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Glenn Greenwald got a copy of a FISA court order requiring that Verizon turn over all phone call information for a 3 month period.&nbsp; Members of Congress have revealed that this was in fact a renewal, and that this has been going on for 7 years.&nbsp; Senator Udall stated that he has been trying reveal &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1142,971,969,1102,1103],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-187143","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-barack-obama","category-civil-rights","category-evil","category-intelligence","category-secrecy"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/187143"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=187143"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/187143\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=187143"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=187143"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=187143"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}