{"id":190547,"date":"2009-11-15T06:38:00","date_gmt":"2009-11-15T11:38:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2009\/11\/15\/israel-drops-v-22\/"},"modified":"2009-11-15T06:38:00","modified_gmt":"2009-11-15T11:38:00","slug":"israel-drops-v-22","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2009\/11\/15\/israel-drops-v-22\/","title":{"rendered":"Israel Drops V-22"},"content":{"rendered":"

The IDF is looking at the CH-53K instead<\/a>.<\/p>\n

It makes sense, really. Israel is the size of New Jersey, and the CH-53 is much more flexible, and the difference in speed does not make much of a difference.<\/p>\n

Let’s roll the numbers<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
<\/td>\nV-22<\/td>\nCh-53K<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Speed<\/td>\n450 km\/h<\/td>\n315 km\/h<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Payload<\/td>\n6,800 kg<\/td>\n15,900 kg<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Range<\/td>\n1,627 km<\/td>\n841 km<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Cabin Size (lxwxh)<\/td>\n7.3m x 1.8m x 1.8m<\/td>\n9.1m x 2.7m x 2.0m<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

Since going from one corner of Israel to the other is on the order of 400 km, the CH-53 K can cover the entire country, carrying more, and carrying more internally.<\/p>\n

Additionally, the V-22 costs about $70 million as versus about $30 million for the CH-53K.<\/p>\n

With a reduced payload and supplemental tanks, something like a special forces insertion is going to have similar range, and the larger internal payload allows the on an offloading of larger vehicles more quickly.<\/p>\n

Finally, in a “hot” landing zone, the V-22, with its heavily loaded props\/rotors, is more susceptible to vortex ring state (basically a stall in a rotary winged aircraft), and has to descend more slowly, increasing vulnerability to ground fire.<\/p>\n

It’s a no brainer for Israel not to buy the V-22.<\/p>\n

Come to think of it, it may be a no brainer for everyone<\/span> not to buy the V-22.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

The IDF is looking at the CH-53K instead. It makes sense, really. Israel is the size of New Jersey, and the CH-53 is much more flexible, and the difference in speed does not make much of a difference. Let’s roll the numbers V-22 Ch-53K Speed 450 km\/h 315 km\/h Payload 6,800 kg 15,900 kg Range …<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1007,1008,1226,1159],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-190547","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-aviation","category-defense-procurement","category-helicopters","category-israel"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/190547"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=190547"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/190547\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=190547"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=190547"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=190547"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}