{"id":193472,"date":"2008-12-13T08:42:00","date_gmt":"2008-12-13T13:42:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2008\/12\/13\/very-angry-swedes\/"},"modified":"2008-12-13T08:42:00","modified_gmt":"2008-12-13T13:42:00","slug":"very-angry-swedes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2008\/12\/13\/very-angry-swedes\/","title":{"rendered":"Very Angry Swedes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Norwegian decision to purchase the F-35 JSF should come as no surprise, but the folks at SAAB are <a href=\"http:\/\/www.aviationweek.com\/aw\/blogs\/defense\/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&amp;plckScript=blogScript&amp;plckElementId=blogDest&amp;plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&amp;plckPostId=Blog%3A27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3Ae7fecd93-9d7e-4c42-936a-1627abbac4d2\">hopping mad at the suggestion that the F-35 will be less expensive to own and operate<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>This is not surprising.  The Gripen, even the heaver Gripen NG, is half the weight of the JSF, and cost and operating costs vary pretty directly with size.<\/p>\n<p>What appears to have happened is that the Norwegians compared the purchase price of the Gripen that included, &#8220;included initial training, initial spares and all mission planning and support systems,&#8221; to unit flyaway costs for the American fighter, and even then, the cost quoted is about $20 million a pop less than what is bandied about in the media.<\/p>\n<p>Bill Sweetman, talking to his sources, suggests that the Norwegians were concerned about the cost to them if the Gripen turned out to be a market failure.<\/p>\n<p>If only 100 or so were sold, and that is a <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">real<\/span> possibility, or worse, that SAAB is taken down by the financial crisis, than upgrades throughout its life cycle would be very expensive, while there will be thousands of JSF&#8217;s produced, as there are already thousands of JSF&#8217;s on order by around a dozen nations, and the program is backed by the &#8220;full faith and credit of the United States&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Their strong language appears to be all about mollifying left wing parties in the government.<\/p>\n<p>SAAB&#8217;s full rebuttal is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/included%20initial%20training,%20initial%20spares%20and%20all%20mission%20planning%20and%20support%20systems\">here<\/a> (PDF), here are their bullet points:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>claims that Gripen does not meet the Norwegian air force\u2019s demand rests on simulations containing incomplete or non-existent capacity information<\/li>\n<li>the alleged life cycle cost does not rest on experience of the Gripen system but hasbeen calculated by applying own assumptions and models of calculations.<\/li>\n<li>conditions underpinning the calculation are in parts radically altered and based on internal Norwegian assumptions.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Norwegian decision to purchase the F-35 JSF should come as no surprise, but the folks at SAAB are hopping mad at the suggestion that the F-35 will be less expensive to own and operate. This is not surprising. The Gripen, even the heaver Gripen NG, is half the weight of the JSF, and cost &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1007,1008,984],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-193472","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-aviation","category-defense-procurement","category-europe"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/193472"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=193472"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/193472\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=193472"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=193472"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=193472"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}