{"id":193567,"date":"2008-12-06T08:13:00","date_gmt":"2008-12-06T13:13:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2008\/12\/06\/why-go-bullpup\/"},"modified":"2008-12-06T08:13:00","modified_gmt":"2008-12-06T13:13:00","slug":"why-go-bullpup","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.panix.com\/~msaroff\/40years\/2008\/12\/06\/why-go-bullpup\/","title":{"rendered":"Why go Bullpup"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/img154.imageshack.us\/img154\/585\/51fd905fd063468b89199a5li6.jpg\" style=\"margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; float: left; cursor: pointer;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>In what should be a surprise to no onw, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.aviationweek.com\/aw\/blogs\/defense\/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&amp;plckScript=blogScript&amp;plckElementId=blogDest&amp;plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&amp;plckPostId=Blog%3A27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3A4621a197-0ebf-4271-bf60-41e647ef975f\">Israeli Defense Forces have adopted the MTAR-21 Micro-Tavor as their weapon of choice<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Once again, it allows us to look at why the M4\/M16 needs to be replaced in US service.<\/p>\n<p>In addition to its gas tube operation requesting excessive cleaning, it&#8217;s just too damn long:<\/p>\n<link rel=\"File-List\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5Csaroffm%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmsohtml1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml\"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>  <w:worddocument>   <w:view>Normal<\/w:View>   <w:zoom>0<\/w:Zoom>   <w:punctuationkerning\/>   <w:validateagainstschemas\/>   <w:saveifxmlinval>false<\/w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>   <w:ignoremixedcontent>false<\/w:IgnoreMixedContent>   <w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext>false<\/w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>   <w:compatibility>    <w:breakwrappedtables\/>    <w:snaptogridincell\/>    <w:wraptextwithpunct\/>    <w:useasianbreakrules\/>    <w:dontgrowautofit\/>    <w:usefelayout\/>   <\/w:Compatibility>   <w:browserlevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4<\/w:BrowserLevel>  <\/w:WordDocument> <\/xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>  <w:latentstyles deflockedstate=\"false\" latentstylecount=\"156\">  <\/w:LatentStyles> <\/xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]>  <![endif]--><br \/>\n<table style=\"border: medium none ; 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border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 110.7pt;\" valign=\"top\" width=\"148\">\n<p>TAR-21<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<td style=\"border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 191.7pt;\" valign=\"top\" width=\"256\">\n<p>725 mm (28.5 in)<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<td style=\"border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 117pt;\" valign=\"top\" width=\"156\">\n<p>460 mm (18.1 in)<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr style=\"\">\n<td style=\"border-style: none solid solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 110.7pt;\" valign=\"top\" width=\"148\">\n<p>MTAR-21<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<td style=\"border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color windowtext windowtext -moz-use-text-color; 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The 5.56 mm round is light and uses high velocity to carry to provide lethality, but the M4 is <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">much<\/span> more extensively used, because for any urban situation, the M-16 at 1m long is simply unmanagable, while the TAR-21, the normal rifle for the IDF with an 18 inch barrel is shorter than the M4.<\/p>\n<p>The additional 4 inches of barrel also get the mussel velocity high enough to avoid the lethality issues at 100 m or so.<\/p>\n<p>That is an <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">very<\/span> small package though.<br \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In what should be a surprise to no onw, the Israeli Defense Forces have adopted the MTAR-21 Micro-Tavor as their weapon of choice. Once again, it allows us to look at why the M4\/M16 needs to be replaced in US service. 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